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Old 01-17-2025, 10:50 AM
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Yeah, it's been 4 days now. You should get out there what the card was so other people can look out for it, in case it pops up in the wild.

Sorry this happened to you.

I'm assuming Fanatics was using a Private Insurance company for their packages, because it costs waaaay more then $140.00 to Overnight and insure a 40K package with any shipping service.

I don't know about FedEx, but when I was at UPS in the 90's, you'd be fired immediately if you let any 5K+ package go, without getting a valid in-person signature...union worker or not.
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Old 01-17-2025, 11:24 AM
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Yeah, it's been 4 days now. You should get out there what the card was so other people can look out for it, in case it pops up in the wild.

Sorry this happened to you.

I'm assuming Fanatics was using a Private Insurance company for their packages, because it costs waaaay more then $140.00 to Overnight and insure a 40K package with any shipping service.

I don't know about FedEx, but when I was at UPS in the 90's, you'd be fired immediately if you let any 5K+ package go, without getting a valid in-person signature...union worker or not.
Fanatics uses a private insurer.

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Old 01-17-2025, 11:32 AM
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Then why would you sue FedEx? It's now an issue for Fanatic's insurance company.
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Old 01-17-2025, 12:35 PM
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Then why would you sue FedEx? It's now an issue for Fanatic's insurance company.
I would think that the insurance company that Fanatic’s uses needs ONLY a signature to consider an item “delivered”
I am charging FedEx with NEVER HAVING OBTAINED a signature.

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I have heard many FedEx drivers don't even attempt to get a signature. They'll just show up and slap the piece of paper on the door. As someone mentioned, I always select to pick it up at a nearby location.
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I have heard many FedEx drivers don't even attempt to get a signature. They'll just show up and slap the piece of paper on the door. As someone mentioned, I always select to pick it up at a nearby location.
This happens to me quite often. (Blank slip on the door with no information whatsoever.)
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Interesting! There are currently 142 graded 7 or better in PSA's database. I wonder how many additional ones there are in SGC's database?

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SGC does not grade Star BKB unless it's an extremely recent thing. There are still lots of BGS ones that have not been crossed. The problem with crossing is in most cases the centering is going to foreclose the 8 grade even if the card is a killer BGS 8 with mint corners. But I am sure they make exceptions for submitters on the Animal Farm plan.
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SGC does not grade Star BKB unless it's an extremely recent thing. There are still lots of BGS ones that have not been crossed. The problem with crossing is in most cases the centering is going to foreclose the 8 grade even if the card is a killer BGS 8 with mint corners. But I am sure they make exceptions for submitters on the Animal Farm plan.
I keep telling myself that about the BGS 8 (centering 7.5, corners 9.5, edges 9.5 surface 9) we sold a few years ago before PSA started grading them.

What's the old saying? A day late and a dollar short? We were a couple years early and about $30,000 short.
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I keep telling myself that about the BGS 8 (centering 7.5, corners 9.5, edges 9.5 surface 9) we sold a few years ago before PSA started grading them.

What's the old saying? A day late and a dollar short? We were a couple years early and about $30,000 short.
Yeah, I bought my 8 which should be an 8.5 many moons ago. It would be a crime to put it in a 7 holder or even 7.5 IMO.
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I used to have a BGS 7.5 that I sold years ago (before PSA started grading them). Like hundreds of others before me, I too tried to get them to grade the Star cards and even spoke to Joe Orlando, but they didn't give a sh*t.
Why not? I thought they'd grade anything if there was a buck in it.

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Why not? I thought they'd grade anything if there was a buck in it.

From what I've heard/read, PSA couldn't authenticate genuine Star cards and identify fakes.

That could be a myth; however, it was oft-cited as the reason.
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As I understand, very early on PSA got burned grading a few bad Star Jordans. Orlando then vowed never again, and would not relent even when the most knowledgeable people about Star offered to train the graders -- as I believe was done for Beckett. These people tell me it's not all that difficult and that Orlando overreacted. Recently, Nat Turner finally changed direction for PSA.
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