I may have to sue Fanatics or Fedex-UPDATED 5/8/25 AT END OF THREAD

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by nwobhm

The Jordan Holy Grail is a card that is picked up in person. No way in Hell I would trust the shitbirds at UPS FedEx or USPS with that.

I sniff driver larceny in this sad tale.
If delivery services had any idea the righteous anger of collectors, who have saved, done their homework and bought a big card, only to find it has gone astray due to the carrier's negligence might think about improving service by vetting their drivers more carefully

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Yoda

If delivery services had any idea the righteous anger of collectors, who have saved, done their homework and bought a big card, only to find it has gone astray due to the carrier's negligence might think about improving service by vetting their drivers more carefully

That won't do it. The only thing that could give the delivery services pause is a court ruling with mega punitive damages for negligence over and above full compensation to the individual who didn't get delivery.

[samosa4u]

This is every card guy's worst nightmare! I'm sorry this had to happen to you.

Using a company like FedEx or UPS or DHL overnight and getting signature provides extra layers of security, but nothing is a hundred-perfect safe. Like many of you posted already, picking up your parcel from one of the nearest locations to your home can provide you with even more security.

I've had many parcels get shipped to me through FedEx and they're pretty good here (Toronto). There was only one time where the American sender didn't get signature and my package was left at the wrong house. When we called customer service, they reached out to the driver and he told them that he had left it at the right house. This went on for a few days, but then the driver brought the package to my house and handed it to my mother (he apologized).

I've had Canada Post deliver my packages to the wrong houses a few times - total nightmare. I even had to chase the CP worker down the street once and make him retrieve my package!

[Balticfox]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

That won't do it. The only thing that could give the delivery services pause is a court ruling with mega punitive damages for negligence over and above full compensation to the individual who didn't get delivery.

The thing about puntive damages is that they're intended to punish for malevolence, negligence, etc. They should therefore not go to the plaintiff (who's already receiving full compensation) but to say a charity fund. This would have the effect of increasing the size of punitive damage awards enormously.

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

You can blame the individual drivers all you want, but it's a top/down attitude, likely connected to delivery speed quotas, along with getting docked for bringing packages that haven't been signed for back to the building.

I doubt very many FedEx drivers are pilfering packages themselves. It's just too easy to get caught at that stage of the delivery, and your movements are tracked from minute to minute. What they ARE doing is, whatever they can to keep from bringing a package back to the building, which includes scrawling fake signatures, and leaving packages where they can easily be pilfered by others, or out in the weather, or just straight up mis-delivering...sometimes with a fake sig.

Usually the out for the fake sig is "Talked to the customer earlier, and they said I could sign for them".

Of course they are told not to do this by their supervisors.....followed by a tacit wink, wink, and a "do whatever you have to do to keep your job" kick in the ass on the way out the door in the morning.

I WAS a delivery driver in a former life. We have a front covered porch that's out of the weather, that every delivery driver wishes for, when they drop off a package at any house.

We've had FedEx drivers leave packages at the top of the driveway by the mailbox next to the road, in the driveway, right in front of the garage door ready to get run over when you go to back out, in the yard to the side of the driveway, in the little pull off parking spot halfway down the drive....etc....

Hell, we even had a Chewy Dog Food box left at the end of a neighbors driveway a 1/2 mile down the street a month ago or so. Got the "Delivered" notice, complete with a picture of the box in a strangers driveway, that was definitely not our own. Not even at HIS front door, but perched on a wall at the end of his driveway. Thankfully the neighbor was kind enough to truck it back to our house before we figured out exactly where it was misdelivered to.

No rhyme or reason either. Not all the FedEx drivers do that, but we seem to live in a sort of delivery dead spot that gets a different driver every day.

The other delivery outfits don't deliver in the same manner... at least not in my experience.

Not USPS, not UPS, not even Amazon does that, and we might get 3 different Amazon drivers in a single day.

Just FedEx and some other delivery outfit named "Uniuni" that we get every once in awhile.

Hell, the others might tear up our gravel driveway, and occasionally back into our garage...but at least they get the package where it's supposed to go.

There's also the fact, FedEx will notoriously take all the money you want to give them for Insurance coverage, but then dance around what and how much they will actually cover if something actually goes down. That's a directive all the way from the top to be that evasive in your practices.

Like I say, punitive damages. That's the solution.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Balticfox

The thing about puntive damages is that they're intended to punish for malevolence, negligence, etc. They should therefore not go to the plaintiff (who's already receiving full compensation) but to say a charity fund. This would have the effect of increasing the size of punitive damage awards enormously.



Like I say, punitive damages. That's the solution.

No, the solution here is to resolve it. Even if punitive damages were available in a lawsuit, Fed Ex is a company with a 65 BILLION dollar market cap, I hardly think a punitive damages award in a suit for a 40K loss/theft is going to matter to them. People constantly overstate the in terrorem effect of civil litigation, not to mention have very little understanding of how hard it is to bring a class action in most circumstances.