assault weapon ban again

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I realize Tea Party members don't want a "democratic reform" but wouldn't they be interested in a reform that Cantor would be able to sell to the GOP? Isn't that better than what we currently have?

Where's the compromise?

Don't both people/parties usually give-up something in a compromise? Ok, the right gives in and gives them a path to citizenship? What does the left give up?

How do we keep more from coming into the US illegally?

[jhs5120]

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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

They're not going to stop crossing our borders. Ever. We could put up a wall, hire an additional 10,000 troops and construct some sort of super laser that incinerates anyone with illegal thoughts, but they will continue to find a way across.

The only way to prevent them from crossing our border illegally is to provide a legal way to cross that is a more attractive option than just sneaking through the desert.

Stop wasting money on a fruitless effort and put them to work. Grant them work visas and allow their children to go to our schools for a fee. Don't grant them citizenship, don't allow them to vote, just let them work.

Children of illegal aliens shouldn't be granted citizenship, they should be of the same status of their parents.

You know what, Jason, I would have no problem with that if it actually worked. Some come over on work visas for a specified period of time, work hard, go back after their work visas expire, allow others to come over, repeat process. Sounds good in theory, but what happens when their work visas expire and they don't leave?

[jhs5120]

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[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Why should we let the work visas expire? Just let them stay in the country and work. We'll collect taxes, we force them to buy into Obamacare (if they do it at a young age we'll actually MAKE money on them) and we won't collect or give them social security (because they're not citizens).

They'll come into our country and work until there little Mexican bodies can't handle it anymore.

It'll never happen though because Republicans will call it too soft (since we're letting Mexicans into 'MERICA!) and Democrats will think it's too harsh (since we're not letting them vote).

Come on, Jason. Of course a work visa would expire. They would go home after expiration, new workers would come over. Otherwise, if the work visas don't expire, then do we just give one to everybody that wants one and let everybody come on in? If not, how do you determine who get one and who doesn't? Brings me back to my question: What happens when they don't go home?

[jhs5120]

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[vintagetoppsguy]

Jason, you're missing my point. Maybe I'm not explaining it well enough. How many visas do we give out? One to anybody that wants one? If so, then why do we need borders? If not, how do we determine who gets one and who doesn't?