T206 Buyers Beware

[steve B]

Here's a Barry with nearly no caption. A decent sized lower border, and the caption just barely visible at the lower edge. The brown is shifted down on this one.


But the same seller had a Schmidt that had a full lower border and no caption. I was sure I'd saved the scan, but haven't found it yet.

re-creating the white background isn't necessary if the original front is simply erased.

Using the same font isn't hard.

using the same ink isn't needed, merely one close to the same color

Using the same method also isn't all that hard. And not entirely required.

duplicating a small section of text on one color is fairly simple. Duplicating the entire image would be a challenge, but may be possible.

As a related question, maybe one that should get its own thread- Where are the wrongbacks? Nearly every other sort of T206 scrap or error has turned up, I would think that at some point a leftover sheet of say 150 series would have been used as makeready sheets or marker sheets for a later series or for a brand that didn't use that image. So there should be at least a handful of 150 only cards with 350 or even 460 backs. (Not saying that these are wrongbacks just that some should exist somewhere. And I'd be more comfortable seeing a common.)

Steve B

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by steve B

re-creating the white background isn't necessary if the original front is simply erased.

Using the same font isn't hard.

using the same ink isn't needed, merely one close to the same color

Using the same method also isn't all that hard. And not entirely required.

duplicating a small section of text on one color is fairly simple. Duplicating the entire image would be a challenge, but may be possible.


Steve B

Steve, you're saying it's all easy, but not saying answering 'how'. If the font can be 'simply erased', such that it could FOOL THE GRADER, we'd have so many error cards encapsulated that they wouldn't be worth anything.

Same thing is true if it's really that easy to find ink that's close to the same color and a similar font and method - can you imagine how many Slow Joe Doyles we'd have with Nat'l?

I'm still not seeing this.

[tedzan]

Let's get back on the main track here......and, that's Tim's original subject of these two fake T206's, that were good enough to fool the Grading Co's.

We went thru a rash of these fake T206's approx. 12 years ago (and in few cases, we still are). So, here goes an important question for you all to consider......

Is the quality increasing of these professionally altered T206's......or, is the quality of the professional grading services decreasing ?

Or, perhaps a combination of both of these factors ? ?


T-Rex TED