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Old 02-02-2025, 11:18 AM
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I was going to let this go, and let it die, but I need to help your difficulties of understanding something very simple. My stance has never changed which you keep claiming as fact.

Again I'll try to slow things down so you can comprehend.

The deal started as do you want to sell the card.

Definition of sell
give or hand over (something) in exchange for money.

His response back was no thanks I don't want to break a set.

My 2nd and last response was I'll include a lower grade card so you will still have s full set in which he didn't respond, at which point I didn't bother him any further. Pretty damn simple. Your mountain, meet molehill.

It was a transaction attempt I'd imagine many people here have done. That was if you care to read my initial post. You just chose to read it incorrectly or couldn't grasp what was said. Since it's still ongoing I'd say both are true

I'm collecting in the sense to give, not a collection for myself. Lables are used, so I attached that label to identify myself as a single player collector for my second question of my original post.

I don't think I was being salty, I was simply discussing an attempt to get a card.

The second question was honestly just a question asked, because I'm not a card collector. I just thought it was a harmless question that must have struck a nerve of some folks.

I just wanted to understand the hobby more. Its actually amazing to me some of the stupid response I got. Like I don't understand it's not my card or that I can't make a person sell it or that my priority trumps someone else's.

The card holder shouldn't have just said, I don't want to break the set, sid not for sale. That would have been the end. I would have said, well if you ever want to sell let me know. I wasn't being a jerk many have painted me out to be.

If you want to label me a collector it's of anything relevant to Clemons. I'd label myself as a preservationist. The bullshit is on your end, and I'm sorry you can't grasp this.

This illusion of yours, and others thinking "my superiority of collecting " is pure idiocy. I take it your a set collector, and got all steamed, and couldn't see straight past that initial take. Again, it wasn't to point a finger at any type of collector. I simply stated what happened in a transaction, and then I thought to add the second question, and it had no relevance to my first question. Maybe I should have just made two separate posts.

People are acting like I'm trying to strong arm people to sell me something. Ask anyone I have delt with, and they can tell you I'm nothing like that.

I'm not getting cards, because they're very few to get. That's why I tried to ask a person if they would sell. I don't have many options. Its not a money thing like trying to buy a HOFer it's a population thing. I'm dealing in less the 10 known cards or less recognized. Most are under 5. The E120 has the most. I haven't checked between all the registries. I've been here for multiple years trying to find things. The reality is the items I'm searching for aren't a common want.

Actually, I made a thread you ignored the main ask. Just so you understand the set collector was just part of a discussion not to point blame. If that's the case I also blamed myself. The irony!
This is to prove you aren't salty and that I'm an idiot because you insist on not being a collector and also being a collector and that actually makes perfect sense. All your direct contradictions actually aren't. Mhm. Go touch grass.
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Old 02-02-2025, 11:32 AM
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This is to prove you aren't salty and that I'm an idiot because you insist on not being a collector and also being a collector and that actually makes perfect sense. All your direct contradictions actually aren't. Mhm. Go touch grass.
Why do you use words that you don't have understanding of to label people?

preservationist vs a collector. Maybe if you understand the difference it will set you free, but I'm not counting on it. I'm not looking for monetary gain or something having intrinsic value. There's several of us trying to keep the historic value of our town alive. There's no financial aspect or gain for those doing so. Keep grasping for that last blade of grass!

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Old 02-02-2025, 11:42 AM
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Old 02-02-2025, 11:47 AM
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Why do you use words that you don't have understanding of to label people?

preservationist vs a collector. Maybe if you understand the difference it will set you free, but I'm not counting on it. I'm not looking for monetary gain or something having intrinsic value. There's several of us trying to keep the historic value of our town alive. There's no financial aspect or gain for those doing so. Keep grasping for that last blade of grass!
You used collecting/collection/collector to describe yourself and your activities, while also insisting it’s wrong. I didn’t label you, you did. Read the transcript, , I even quoted you doing it several times. Or better yet, go touch grass. This is the most bitching anyone has ever done over their shitty offer getting rejected. This is pathetic lol.
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You used collecting/collection/collector to describe yourself and your activities, while also insisting it’s wrong. I didn’t label you, you did. Read the transcript, , I even quoted you doing it several times. Or better yet, go touch grass. This is the most bitching anyone has ever done over their shitty offer getting rejected. This is pathetic lol.
And I already explained as much more than once. You have an issue with trying to paint your own picture instead of listening to what someone stated. How many posts have you made, and yet you still haven't even touched the question posed.

Nah its your bitching about something you misrepresented, and can't let go lof it.

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Old 02-02-2025, 01:49 PM
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And I already explained as much more than once. You have an issue with trying to paint your own picture instead of listening to what someone stated. How many posts have you made, and yet you still haven't even touched the question posed.

Nah its your bitching about something you misrepresented, and can't let go lof it.
The transcript shows I was one of the first posts answering questions from the OP.

I did listen to what you said. That’s how I was able to quote and observe your direct contradictions. You collect and have a collection in your own direct words, then bitch and moan if someone calls you a collector.

You stewed over it all weekend and came back because you literally couldn’t drop it. “Can’t let go of it” lol.

It’s nobodies fault but your own that you have contradicted yourself repeatedly. Throwing a bitch fit over a crappy offer being rejected is not going to bring support. You aren’t entitled to anything. Everyone except you gets it. Put your adult pants on, and grow up.
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The transcript shows I was one of the first posts answering questions from the OP.

I did listen to what you said. That’s how I was able to quote and observe your direct contradictions. You collect and have a collection in your own direct words, then bitch and moan if someone calls you a collector.

You stewed over it all weekend and came back because you literally couldn’t drop it. “Can’t let go of it” lol.

It’s nobodies fault but your own that you have contradicted yourself repeatedly. Throwing a bitch fit over a crappy offer being rejected is not going to bring support. You aren’t entitled to anything. Everyone except you gets it. Put your adult pants on, and grow up.
“The hobby” and “your personal interests” are two different things. How is it hurting the hobby for other collectors to not put your collecting over their own? People are not obligated to sell/trade you a card because you want it. There’s a few items I’d like that people won’t sell, but they aren’t hurting the hobby by keeping them and declining my overpay offer. None of us are entitled to an item. Especially if you’re trying to trade them an objectively worse item for an objectively better item. Why would somebody trade you a higher grade copy for a lower grade one? That’s a very bad deal for them.
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“The hobby” and “your personal interests” are two different things. How is it hurting the hobby for other collectors to not put your collecting over their own? People are not obligated to sell/trade you a card because you want it. There’s a few items I’d like that people won’t sell, but they aren’t hurting the hobby by keeping them and declining my overpay offer. None of us are entitled to an item. Especially if you’re trying to trade them an objectively worse item for an objectively better item. Why would somebody trade you a higher grade copy for a lower grade one? That’s a very bad deal for them.
I guess you’re probably trying to counter my first point? See post 6 of the thread, you skipped it to copy this in from later. You can do it.
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