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[Exhibitman]

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We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.

[scotgreb]

As a lifelong Pirates fan, I love(d) Dave Parker -- and Garvey was certainly a great player. I just feel like there are countless others with similar (or better) credentials; namely be beloved Al Oliver.

Every thread needs a card . . .

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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Overall,



We scream bloody murder over Harold Baines (38.8 WAR, 2800+ hits) and they give us Steve Garvey (38.0 WAR. 2599 hits), and Dave Parker (40.0 WAR, 2700+ hits). Same guy. I loathe the Red Sox but, as much as it pains me to say so, Evans is a way better player than any of these guys and is far more deserving of the HOF.

Ken Boyer and Graig Nettles are basically the same guy. Boyer had a better average, Nettles had more pop. 3B is an underrepresented position, so I would be OK with Boyer if Nettles goes too.

Tommy John is a participation trophy, as is Tiant; David Cone, Rick Reuschel and Kevin Brown had similar careers to them. John's wins are an accumulation stat; he averaged 13 per year. It's the Don Drysdale-Milt Pappas argument all over again.

Evans was never THE man on teams that had Yaz and Rice and Fisk (and Lynn was more popular), then Boggs. I think that hurt his public perception.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Evans was never THE man on teams that had Yaz and Rice and Fisk (and Lynn was more popular), then Boggs. I think that hurt his public perception.

My favorite player growing up. Never flashy, never egotistical, never sought the spotlight. Just went out there and played. A kind, low-key, private family man.

I'd like to see him inducted but there are definitely so many more who need to go in before him--not to mention SO many less.

[Scocs]

I don’t understand how Donaldson and Harris get voted on again after a couple of years have past, without looking at a few other noteworthy Negro League candidates like Lundy, Marcelle, Beckwith, Oms, Poles, Winters, etc.

It’s really infuriating!

[bbcard1]

The HOF is probably hopelessly screwed up. It is now a collection of players that were at worst pretty good but not including some that are considerably better than many in the hall. And the only player ever admitted with 100% of the vote was a fricken relief pitcher.

[packs]

Am I the only one who feels like the HOF's own ridiculous ballots are going to kill the committees they established?

If no one from this list gets in again this year, what is the point of continuing this era so that the same group of people can be voted on again and again? There wouldn't seem to be a purpose and then the entire sentiment behind this process is useless.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by packs

Am I the only one who feels like the HOF's own ridiculous ballots are going to kill the committees they established?

If no one from this list gets in again this year, what is the point of continuing this era so that the same group of people can be voted on again and again? There wouldn't seem to be a purpose and then the entire sentiment behind this process is useless.

Yes, it's just push, push, push these same tired names, while for reasons nobody seems clear on, a long list of truly deserving candidates are ignored.

[KJA]

Originally Posted by packs

Am I the only one who feels like the HOF's own ridiculous ballots are going to kill the committees they established?

If no one from this list gets in again this year, what is the point of continuing this era so that the same group of people can be voted on again and again? There wouldn't seem to be a purpose and then the entire sentiment behind this process is useless.

There needs to be a limit on the amount of times a player can appear on era's ballot.