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Old 11-04-2024, 12:41 PM
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Steve Garvey has been on the ballot 20 times, including 5 by the veteran's committee (2011, 2014, 2018, 2020, and now 2024). He got 37.5% of the vote in 2020. I don't understand why they can't give someone else a chance, especially after he didn't come close to getting in the last time.

Dick Allen has been on the ballot 21 times, including 7 by the Veteran's committee. But I believe he missed by only 1 vote in both 2015 and 2022 (68.8%).

Too bad they couldn't Allen in during his lifetime.
Same goes for Tiant. (And Minnie Minoso and Gil Hodges).

I think Allen and Tiant are both deserving.

Tiant had been vocal about wanting to be elected while alive:

“I already told my family, ‘They put me after I die, don’t go anywhere. Don’t go to the Hall of Fame, don’t go to Cooperstown, don’t go no god— place,’” Tiant said. “‘Cause I think it’s wrong what they do.”

Tiant doesn’t see the benefit of posthumous induction.

“What good is that they put you after you die?” Tiant said, adding, “You can’t do nothing with your family and your friends.”
Wasn't Hodges rejected about a million times before he made it?
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I'm a big advocate of Tiant and Dick Allen.

Garvey, despite the fact I think he's a schmuck - probably belongs in as well.
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The fact that the HOF encompasses baseball from is beginnings to the year 1980 in one category is a joke. When the man that contributed the most to in establishing the rules for baseball (Doc Adams) is not in the HOF, There is something really wrong. The HOF claims to be the claims to be the bastion of baseball history. Unfortunately, it has become a bastion of the flavor of the month.
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I don't know enough about the NL players to opine on them, but the rest are Hall of Very Good.
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I really wish they would put Glasscock on a ballot.
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The fact that the HOF encompasses baseball from is beginnings to the year 1980 in one category is a joke. When the man that contributed the most to in establishing the rules for baseball (Doc Adams) is not in the HOF, There is something really wrong. The HOF claims to be the claims to be the bastion of baseball history. Unfortunately, it has become a bastion of the flavor of the month.
As I've posted to match other sports, the BB HOF needs a "contributor" category.

Doc Adams. Lefty O'Doul. Curt Flood. etc

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I sent my Dick Allen GU flannel in to SGC (Dave Grob) to get evaluated/graded last week. I'm counting on him getting in and wanted to get pre-HOF pricing.
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Rich is right about Contributors
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I’m probably in the minority, but I wish the Hall of Fame would considered the PCL pre-1946 as major league service years. I don’t think it’s necessary to rewrite the record books, but guys like Lefty O’Doul, Buzz Arlett, and Jigger Statz are glaring omissions to me. I’m also of the opinion of that if the Cuban Winter League was important enough for American Baseball executives to try to dictate how the league operated it should be considered a Major League as well.
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What about Dwight Evans? He seems comparable to Garvey and Parker
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As I've posted to match other sports, the BB HOF needs a "contributor" category.

Doc Adams. Lefty O'Doul. Curt Flood. etc

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Would also get guys like Joe Torre and Dusty Baker for their total body of work since they were very good to great players and highly successful managers. Yes Torre got in and Baker will as just managers, but they were much more than just HOF Managers.
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Wasn't Hodges rejected about a million times before he made it?
Yep. I remember wondering as a teenager why Hodges wasn't in. It finally happened 30 some years later...
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And how many times does this make for Boyer?

My guess is that Allen and Boyer get in. Not awful, but could have been so much better with more historic candidates.
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