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Old 11-04-2024, 02:07 AM
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Me I would vote for Tommy John #1

His pitching stats should get him in AND he has a surgery named for him. That covers the fame.

Honestly, any one on this list is worthy and it would be a shame to have either Allen or Tiant go in after they passed when we could have gotten them in when still alive

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Old 11-04-2024, 07:34 AM
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Vic Harris was a tremendous ballplayer and an even better manager. He managed the Grays to first place 8 times in 11 seasons and never had a losing record. He was sort of Joe Torre candidate. Although I think there are many more deserving negro league players. starting with Lundy, Marcelle, Beckwith, Scales, Wright, Poles, Redding, Home Run Johnson, Oms, Rap Dixon, Fats Jenkins, Nip Winters, etc. But Harris was the best manager, hands down, and deserves to be in the HOF for that alone.
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Old 11-04-2024, 09:09 AM
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Seriously bizarre list. I just read that Vic Harris was also just voted on in 2022.

This category is supposed to be for players passed over but about if the list was voted on in the last 5 years. What has changed in terms of their candidacy in that short time?
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Old 11-04-2024, 09:13 AM
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If you put the same names over and over and over and over on a small ballot with a small discussion group voting, you’ll eventually get those names voted in.
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Old 11-04-2024, 09:13 AM
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Steve Garvey would be my pick
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Is there a source that this is in fact the ballot? I am not finding one, and I am reading pretty definitively Allen for example is not eligible for another year.
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Is there a source that this is in fact the ballot? I am not finding one, and I am reading pretty definitively Allen for example is not eligible for another year.
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What an absolutely boring list.
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Ah. I guess in 2022 they restructured the era committees so the old rules about eligibility after rejection must be moot. To your point, it does seem if you put people up over and over again eventually more and more will get in.
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Me I would vote for Tommy John #1

His pitching stats should get him in AND he has a surgery named for him. That covers the fame.

Honestly, any one on this list is worthy and it would be a shame to have either Allen or Tiant go in after they passed when we could have gotten them in when still alive

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I would suggest that Tommy John would be lower on everybody’s list without Lewis Yocum, who was instrumental in developing the “Tommy John operation”.
Lew and I were surgical residents together at Northwestern. Considering the longevity and increased use of the procedure today, why not put Dr. Yocum on the Hall of Fame ballot. He also served as the team physician for the Angels for several decades, so he could have an Angel’s hat and a stethoscope on his HOF plaque. I do believe his procedure has made a significant contribution to history of baseball and every hall of fame needs a doctor. Dr. Jobe’s clinic is often associated with the Tommy John procedure, but Jobe gave his associate, Yocum, the bulk of the credit for its development.

Unfortunately Lew passed away in 2013.
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I would prefer Tommy John's surgeons get in before he does.
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