Every slabbed card has a story, don't it?

[Peter_Spaeth]

So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.

It’s incredibly sad.


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[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.

Hasn't always been that way though? I would argue the only thing that has changed is social media now puts it in front of everyone's faces. But fixing card flaws is as old as cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Hasn't always been that way though? I would argue the only thing that has changed is social media now puts it in front of everyone's faces. But fixing card flaws is as old as cards.

There is, IMO, much more acceptance of it now, especially if it isn't glaringly obvious. People who are at the top of the hobby now used to be widely regarded as scum, for example.

[Leon]

+1
Hopefully, one just got out of the business and stays out.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is, IMO, much more acceptance of it now, especially if it isn't glaringly obvious. People who are at the top of the hobby now used to be widely regarded as scum, for example.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is, IMO, much more acceptance of it now, especially if it isn't glaringly obvious. People who are at the top of the hobby now used to be widely regarded as scum, for example.

https://youtu.be/4xdnrPas48M?si=_aYa9qQ-cR64f_yy


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[raulus]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

https://youtu.be/4xdnrPas48M?si=_aYa9qQ-cR64f_yy


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Interesting interview.

Obviously Kurt seems pretty focused on not stigmatizing collectors who choose to clean up their cards. Of course, his premise is that the primary motivation for cleaning cards is for a collector to enjoy their stuff.

If I’m interpreting most of the concerns around here correctly, it’s that the primary motivation of cleaning up cards is to make a bunch of money, and be deceptive about it in the process, because no one would buy them if they knew they were cleaned. Or they wouldn’t pay nearly as much for them.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by raulus

Interesting interview.

Obviously Kurt seems pretty focused on not stigmatizing collectors who choose to clean up their cards. Of course, his premise is that the primary motivation for cleaning cards is for a collector to enjoy their stuff.

If I’m interpreting most of the concerns around here correctly, it’s that the primary motivation of cleaning up cards is to make a bunch of money, and be deceptive about it in the process, because no one would buy them if they knew they were cleaned. Or they wouldn’t pay nearly as much for them.

Cleaning, removing dents, removing creases, and fixing corners are all apparently now considered a legitimate way to get one over on the graders and spin straw into gold.


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Cleaning, removing dents, removing creases, and fixing corners are all apparently now considered a legitimate way to get one over on the graders and spin straw into gold.


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Yup. Of course one could ask, if it's so legit, why doesn't anyone disclose it when they submit or when they sell.

How long until we hear recoloring is OK because it's just restoring the original color?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

There is, IMO, much more acceptance of it now, especially if it isn't glaringly obvious. People who are at the top of the hobby now used to be widely regarded as scum, for example.

Depends on who you are referring to and who you ask. Lots of "us" feel that lots of "them" are still scum.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.

Not really, you are just more aware of it now.