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Old 03-13-2024, 06:25 PM
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Ignoring the shiny card being discussed, I thought this post by PSA’s president was interesting.


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Their policy is pretty clear. I've been saying this all along, but their website says they will consider a card to be altered if [and only if - emphasis added] it "bears evidence of trimming, recoloring, cleaning, etc".

There is a world of difference between a properly cleaned card and a card that "bears evidence of cleaning". These two things are not the same. They are only concerned about the latter.

If you can't read between the lines, I'd be happy to translate for you. He's saying, "if you use something to clean your cards with, you should probably wipe it off before submitting it."
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Their policy is pretty clear. I've been saying this all along, but their website says they will consider a card to be altered if [and only if - emphasis added] it "bears evidence of trimming, recoloring, cleaning, etc".

There is a world of difference between a properly cleaned card and a card that "bears evidence of cleaning". These two things are not the same. They are only concerned about the latter.

If you can't read between the lines, I'd be happy to translate for you. He's saying, "if you use something to clean your cards with, you should probably wipe it off before submitting it."

Read his post again and you’ll find he mentioned more than “cleaning.”


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Read his post again and you’ll find he mentioned more than “cleaning.”


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Read my post again and you'll find that I was referring to the verbiage used in their official policy that is published on their website.
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Read my post again and you'll find that I was referring to the verbiage used in their official policy that is published on their website.

You said, ‘If you can't read between the lines, I'd be happy to translate for you. He's saying, "if you use something to clean your cards with, you should probably wipe it off before submitting it."’

The PSA prez wasn’t only talking about cleaning cards, but also removing dents and creases, fixing corners, etc. with Kurt’s magic card juice.


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So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.
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So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.

It’s incredibly sad.


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So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.
Hasn't always been that way though? I would argue the only thing that has changed is social media now puts it in front of everyone's faces. But fixing card flaws is as old as cards.
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Hasn't always been that way though? I would argue the only thing that has changed is social media now puts it in front of everyone's faces. But fixing card flaws is as old as cards.
There is, IMO, much more acceptance of it now, especially if it isn't glaringly obvious. People who are at the top of the hobby now used to be widely regarded as scum, for example.
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So the better someone is at doctoring, that makes it OK. Man has the world changed from the hobby I grew up in.
Not really, you are just more aware of it now.
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You said, ‘If you can't read between the lines, I'd be happy to translate for you. He's saying, "if you use something to clean your cards with, you should probably wipe it off before submitting it."’

The PSA prez wasn’t only talking about cleaning cards, but also removing dents and creases, fixing corners, etc. with Kurt’s magic card juice.


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No, he wasn't.
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No, he wasn't.

“PSA does not approve of any chemicals or foreign substances being added to the surface of a card to improve the condition or appearance.”

Removing dents and creases, as well as fixing corners definitely applies here.


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