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[lowpopper]

so many parrots wow

where are all the highlights of jeter making errors in the big games?

what he booted a ball at camden with a 7 run lead?

he bounced one to first on a partly sunny nick johnson bobblehead day?

you know you got the juice when people find any excuse to hate

haha parrots!

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

so many parrots wow

where are all the highlights of jeter making errors in the big games?

what he booted a ball at camden with a 7 run lead?

he bounced one to first on a partly sunny nick johnson bobblehead day?

you know you got the juice when people find any excuse to hate

haha parrots!

Ummm, I think I'm the only one that mentioned Jeter. I'm a Yankee fan and a huge Jeter fan.

Analytics don't like him defensively, even with all the Gold Gloves. Just like they don't really like Edmonds as much as his reputation says otherwise.

Nothing personal. I thought he was a great Shortstop while I was watching him play. I saw him make several plays I've never seen anyone else make. He passed the eye test with flying colors and I wouldn't have traded him for anybody during his prime with the Yanks.

Hope that clears things up...from someone else who also gets clearly irritated when others say Jeter is super over-rated, or that he was a horrible Shortstop, when he clearly wasn't. He didn't have amazing range for much of his career, but he was very workmanlike and reliable.

I've come to terms with the fact that he maybe didn't deserve all the Gold Gloves he won, but he was a solid Shortstop, whatever the analytics say about him.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Ummm, I think I'm the only one that mentioned Jeter. I'm a Yankee fan and a huge Jeter fan.

Analytics don't like him defensively, even with all the Gold Gloves. Just like they don't really like Edmonds as much as his reputation says otherwise.

Nothing personal. I thought he was a great Shortstop while I was watching him play. I saw him make several plays I've never seen anyone else make. He passed the eye test with flying colors and I wouldn't have traded him for anybody during his prime with the Yanks.

Hope that clears things up...from someone else who also gets clearly irritated when others say Jeter is super over-rated, or that he was a horrible Shortstop, when he clearly wasn't. He didn't have amazing range for much of his career, but he was very workmanlike and reliable.

I've come to terms with the fact that he maybe didn't deserve all the Gold Gloves he won, but he was a solid Shortstop, whatever the analytics say about him.

Jeter was immensely overrated during his career. Then it became the narrative that Jeter was immensely overrated, which has now made him somewhat underrated because the ‘correction’ has been too extreme. Let’s throw out the eye test and accept the bad defensive analytics. He’s still a shortstop who played 20 years with a .310/.377/.440 slashline. There have been better shortstops, but only a few at most, even if one goes with his worst defensive metrics.