Just popped this T206 out of its plastic, guess what grade it was given ?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by markf31

......color fake fro joys, trimmed T206 Wagners and T206 impossible front back combinations existed well before the grading companies......

markf31

Sorry to differ with you regarding your above statement. The T206 impossible front/back combos are a relatively recent phenomena. A bunch of
the "re-fronted" fakes surfaced circa 1999-2000.

These fake cards were modified by professional paper restorer(s) to the extent that they fooled PSA and SGC graders.

Here are some examples of these T206 impossible front/back fakes that have been graded in the past 12 years......

Green Cobb / Red HINDU

Matty portrait / Red HINDU

Cobb (bat off shoulder) / PIEDMONT 150

Joe Doyle N.Y. Nat'l / POLAR BEAR

Green Cobb / CYCLE 350 ...... this one recently sold for $3000 in an auction


This is just a sample, as there are quite a few more, and perhaps others on this forum will identify more of them.

P.S. Quite a number of collectors payed some big $$$$ for some of these cards, having trusted the TPG's. And, as is noted in the last example....
there are still a few of these fakes in circulation.


TED Z

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Here are some examples of these T206 impossible front/back fakes that have been graded in the past 12 years......

TED Z

Similarly, what is scary is that many of these were called out due to their front/back combos being impossible, not due to catching the alteration. How many cards (slabbed or raw) are deemed to be authentic simply because the front/back combo is possible, yet the card has been altered to make a more desirable (expensive) front/back combination?

[T206Collector]

You may fault TPG for grading impossible front/back combinations.

But can you imagine how many more fraudulent cards would be in circulation if it wasn't for TPG?

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

You may fault TPG for grading impossible front/back combinations.

But can you imagine how many more fraudulent cards would be in circulation if it wasn't for TPG?

People became more condition sensitive after TPGs came around imo. I don't think there'd be much of a reason to try to alter a card that already appears mint without the TPGs... So maybe less fakes being bought by hobby newcomers, but, maybe more cards being altered for a slightly better grade.