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View Poll Results: Do the stock market losses play into your vintage buys?
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Old 04-09-2025, 06:25 AM
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I can't imagine another country where I would feel safer with my money and potential growth over time than the US stock market. By a wide margin...
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I felt this way until recently. The markets don't like chaos...and that's what america voted for...and that's what we'll have.
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Old 04-09-2025, 06:32 AM
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Many times when chaos hits the markets it's how people with guts willing to take a chance get wealthy. It can only happen if they have the cash to deploy into US equities and the stones to do it...you only have to get rich once.

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Old 04-09-2025, 07:15 AM
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I'm certainly not disputing that argument that chaos breeds opportunity...BUT...the odds of "guessing" correctly are not great...and the majority is getting hurt.
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Many times when chaos hits the markets it's how people with guts willing to take a chance get wealthy. It can only happen if they have the cash to deploy into US equities and the stones to do it...you only have to get rich once.
That’s what I did a day after Bear Stearns collapsed in 2008. But then again, I was young and reckless.
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That’s what I did a day after Bear Stearns collapsed in 2008. But then again, I was young and reckless.
You had the guts and I bet it paid off for you. Good Job !!
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You had the guts and I bet it paid off for you. Good Job !!
It was easier to guess at that time. Warren Buffett was called in to give advice and vouch for financial institutions. Those in charge didn’t want the economy to tank. Today all bets are off. I harvested my losses and put them in cash. I’m not convinced with 5-10 year treasuries and I may not live long enough for the 20-30 year treasuries to mature.

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It was easier to guess at that time. Warren Buffett was called in to give advice and vouch for financial institutions. Those in charge didn’t want the economy to tank. Today all bets are off. I harvested my losses and put them in cash. I’m not convinced with 5-10 year treasuries and I may not live long enough for the 20-30 year treasuries to mature.
definitely scary times...imho...I was contemplating an early retirement in a few years but now that is not likely! The "president" will take the country/world economy down just to get his way...right or wrong...and that's damn scary.
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You know what America has always been known for? Rule of law, political stability, and global leadership with respect to democratic values.

Those bedrocks of American exceptionalism are being undermined now -- it's not a political statement; it is a factual statement.

China, Europe, and every other country with properly qualified and competent technocrats are going to diversify away from the US -- permanently. It's not a Trump issue; it's an American issue. America has shown that its electorate is collectively capable of making decisions that are antithetical to those three things that America, heretofore, as always been known for.

I hope I'm wrong, because I find myself really sad thinking about it these days.

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definitely scary times...imho...I was contemplating an early retirement in a few years but now that is not likely! The "president" will take the country/world economy down just to get his way...right or wrong...and that's damn scary.
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You know what America has always been known for? Rule of law, political stability, and global leadership with respect to democratic values.

Those bedrocks of American exceptionalism are being undermined now -- it's not a political statement; it is a factual statement.

China, Europe, and every other country with properly qualified and competent technocrats are going to diversify away from the US -- permanently. It's not a Trump issue; it's an American issue. America has shown that its electorate is collectively capable of making decisions that are antithetical to those three things that America, heretofore, as always been known for.

I hope I'm wrong, because I find myself really sad thinking about it these days.
If I want politics and volatility I know where to find it. Let's not bring it here.
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