How to find the commons.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

You made a thread that is 50% whining that someone didn't trade you a higher grade copy of a card for a lower grade copy of the same card. That is a rip off offer. Why would a stranger give you a more valuable higher grade copy for a low grade? Why are you so incredibly entitled as to believe that your great higher purpose is more important and makes this in any way reasonable? Why would set collectors give you better, more valuable copies just because you are special and 'want it more' (though apparently not enough to make a fair offer)?

Suck at reading comprehension and math! Now let's go for the trifecta.

Then there's this lil nugget about a great ripoff. I'll slow down the keyboard so you can understand.

The person I emailed about his card told me he didn't want to "break" his set. I then offered a lower grade card in exchange for his higher grade card to keep his full set. I know this will come as a huge shock to you, but it wasn't card for card. It was for cash and card.

The person strictly responded he wanted to have a complete set. This person has cards that range from A to 7 and most at 1 to 4. He didn't respond and that was the end of my conversation with him. I'm such a jerk! It was a total of 2 emails. There was no crying, no entitlement or anything else you have suggested or read into it.

I'll put this out there for you as well. True story I had a transaction with a person that sold me the highest grade card of V100 for said player then went out found a lower grade card and completed his set. The ignorance of this guy. He's actually a poster on Net54.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Suck at reading comprehension and math! Now let's go for the trifecta.

Then there's this lil nugget about a great ripoff. I'll slow down the keyboard so you can understand.

The person I emailed about his card told me he didn't want to "break" his set. I then offered a lower grade card in exchange for his higher grade card to keep his full set. I know this will come as a huge shock to you, but it wasn't card for card. It was for cash and card.

The person strictly responded he wanted to have a complete set. This person has cards that range from A to 7 and most at 1 to 4. He didn't respond and that was the end of my conversation with him. I'm such a jerk! It was a total of 2 emails. There was no crying, no entitlement or anything else you have suggested or read into it.

I'll put this out there for you as well. True story I had a transaction with a person that sold me the highest grade card of V100 for said player then went out found a lower grade card and completed his set. The ignorance of this guy. He's actually a poster on Net54.

A highly pertinent fact mysteriously and strangely kept out until right now! It is my acumen at math, of course, that should allow me to divine information you didn't disclose, say, or hint at it while repeatedly talking about trading a lower grade card for a higher one! I cannot imagine why you are having problems making deals with people.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

A highly pertinent fact mysteriously and strangely kept out until right now! It is my acumen at math, of course, that should allow me to divine information you didn't disclose, say, or hint at it while repeatedly talking about trading a lower grade card for a higher one! I cannot imagine why you are having problems making deals with people.

It wasn't left out or asked before you're personal attack towards me. The person could very well be a poster here and I'm not going to give the email out word for word. It ended without a response from the other party, and that's where it stayed.

My first response was will you sell, his was I don't want to break the set, my next was how about a lower grade card to keep your set complete and nothing after. Both cash and card from my end for his card.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It never got that far becausehe stopped responding, but yes I would have included cash. His end was all about keeping the set, not about the grade or at least that wasn't the impression I got from him.

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It wasn't left out or asked before you're personal attack towards me. The person could very well be a poster here and I'm not going to give the email out word for word. It ended without a response from the other party, and that's where it stayed.

My first response was will you sell, his was I don't want to break the set, my next was how about a lower grade card to keep your set complete and nothing after. Both cash and card from my end for his card.

It sounds like you never made it clear to him that you were offering cash and the lower grade card. Even though he stopped responding, maybe send him another email making that clear and saying how much cash you're willing to include and see if that gets a response.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It wasn't left out or asked before you're personal attack towards me. The person could very well be a poster here and I'm not going to give the email out word for word. It ended without a response from the other party, and that's where it stayed.

My first response was will you sell, his was I don't want to break the set, my next was how about a lower grade card to keep your set complete and nothing after. Both cash and card from my end for his card.

If you want to bitch at personal attacks, go read your posts about me lol. Looks like I was indeed correct, you're telling different versions to different comments. This isn't the bullshit of "card and cash" that I was supposed to magically divine (which somehow equals math) just a few posts ago. In this version of cash OR card you offered cash, he rejected, you then offered instead a lower grade copy of the same card and he ignored you, probably for the obvious reason that that is a rip off.

Whatever the actual truth is or which of your disparate stories is true, you are not going to close many deals this way. Collectors or types of them are not "bad for the hobby" because they do not serve your personal interests. Your personal interests are special to you and only you, not to anyone else. They have absolutely nothing to do with "the hobby".

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

If you want to bitch at personal attacks, go read your posts about me lol. Looks like I was indeed correct, you're telling different versions to different comments. This isn't the bullshit of "card and cash" that I was supposed to magically divine (which somehow equals math) just a few posts ago. In this version of cash OR card you offered cash, he rejected, you then offered instead a lower grade copy of the same card and he ignored you, probably for the obvious reason that that is a rip off.

Whatever the actual truth is or which of your disparate stories is true, you are not going to close many deals this way. Collectors or types of them are not "bad for the hobby" because they do not serve your personal interests. Your personal interests are special to you and only you, not to anyone else. They have absolutely nothing to do with "the hobby".

Are you spending 50% of your time crying? I'll clue you in on the first response talking about a transaction. Notice a funny thing about won't sell and then offered a lower grade card. When you sell or buy something doesthat typically include currency?

For me I just inquired about a card that a set collector has. No dice won't sell. Took a decade to get the complete set. Doesn't really care about the players in the set, just that it's complete. I even offered to trade him a lower grade for what he had, and no more response. Still a complete set for him. I'm a single player collector, and I just want to get the best I can since there's very few cards for me to collect. It has personal value to me for multiple reasons.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Are you spending 50% of your time crying? I'll clue you in on the first response talking about a transaction. Notice a funny thing about won't sell and then offered a lower grade card. When you sell or buy something doesthat typically include currency?

For me I just inquired about a card that a set collector has. No dice won't sell[/B]. Took a decade to get the complete set. Doesn't really care about the players in the set, just that it's complete. I even offered to trade him a lower grade for what he had, and no more response. Still a complete set for him. I'm a single player collector, and I just want to get the best I can since there's very few cards for me to collect. It has personal value to me for multiple reasons.

Cash AND card is very different from Cash OR card. A few posts ago it was AND. Last post it was OR. Maybe you should examine your own abilities here. One post you are emphatically not a collector, the next you are back to bemoaning there are not many cards for you to collect. Cards have value to a lot of us for many reasons. You are not special, regardless of how much you think you are. Other people, especially those you don't know, don't put your 'special' interests over their own. The hobby and your personal interests are completely different things. If you don't like that fact, tough shit lol. You are only the main character of your narrative, just like the rest of us.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

Cash AND card is very different from Cash OR card. A few posts ago it was AND. Last post it was OR. Maybe you should examine your own abilities here. One post you are emphatically not a collector, the next you are back to bemoaning there are not many cards for you to collect. Cards have value to a lot of us for many reasons. You are not special, regardless of how much you think you are. Other people, especially those you don't know, don't put your 'special' interests over their own. The hobby and your personal interests are completely different things. If you don't like that fact, tough shit lol. You are only the main character of your narrative, just like the rest of us.

Again, it was sell and sweetened with card after he said he didn't want to break the set. It didn't go from cash to lower grade card. I've never claimed my interest or the so called being special (your summarization of me) trumps others that's your unicorn, nor do I try to play that with anyone. If they ask why my interest or want my back story then I'll include that. I already stated that as well. If you think my interest isn't more then yours for the three I listed I don't really care about you're opinion. I'm sure if you had players in your bloodline you may see my view differently.

Here's the truth. Most people don't care about the players they collect. They care about completing a set. It doesn't matter who's in it. I don't care about set's I care about 3 people that have meaning beyond a collection. It's not a collection to me. It's extremely challenging to find items this rare. Another poster summed it up very well. The HOFers are easy compared to finding the common players. Every auction has HOFer cards as long as you have the cash. When you're looking for obscure players with very low registry and pop numbers that's my world. I've exhausted about every known card that I can contact the owner. I've been trying to find items since I joined and I haven't gotten any cards from here yet, but I'll keep trying.