How to find the commons.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

... Are you seriously arguing that a set collector wanting to keep his higher grade card is not collecting because they didn't give it to you for a lower grade copy? Offering someone a lower grade copy of the card (which you apparently do not even have!) for a nicer one is not of any benefit to the other collector; that's them giving you something for something lesser. Why would they do that? Other people are not obligated to give you things. Other people who do not service your desires are still collectors. A collector is defined as somebody who lets you rip them off and give you whatever you want.

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

Now you're trying to out-Greg the OG (original Greg)!

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

Yes. I’m the dumbest fellow alive. But even I know I’m not entitled to anyone’s cards and don’t make threads bitching someone didn’t let me rip them off.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes. I’m the dumbest fellow alive. But even I know I’m not entitled to anyone’s cards and don’t make threads bitching someone didn’t let me rip them off.

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

Sorry but you're just clueless man. Reminds me of the jokester on here a few years back trying to trade up from a $1.00 card to a Jackie Robinson rookie. You're oblivious to your own foolishness.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

You made a thread that is 50% whining that someone didn't trade you a higher grade copy of a card for a lower grade copy of the same card. That is a rip off offer. Why would a stranger give you a more valuable higher grade copy for a low grade? Why are you so incredibly entitled as to believe that your great higher purpose is more important and makes this in any way reasonable? Why would set collectors give you better, more valuable copies just because you are special and 'want it more' (though apparently not enough to make a fair offer)?

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

You made a thread that is 50% whining that someone didn't trade you a higher grade copy of a card for a lower grade copy of the same card. That is a rip off offer. Why would a stranger give you a more valuable higher grade copy for a low grade? Why are you so incredibly entitled as to believe that your great higher purpose is more important and makes this in any way reasonable? Why would set collectors give you better, more valuable copies just because you are special and 'want it more' (though apparently not enough to make a fair offer)?

Suck at reading comprehension and math! Now let's go for the trifecta.

Then there's this lil nugget about a great ripoff. I'll slow down the keyboard so you can understand.

The person I emailed about his card told me he didn't want to "break" his set. I then offered a lower grade card in exchange for his higher grade card to keep his full set. I know this will come as a huge shock to you, but it wasn't card for card. It was for cash and card.

The person strictly responded he wanted to have a complete set. This person has cards that range from A to 7 and most at 1 to 4. He didn't respond and that was the end of my conversation with him. I'm such a jerk! It was a total of 2 emails. There was no crying, no entitlement or anything else you have suggested or read into it.

I'll put this out there for you as well. True story I had a transaction with a person that sold me the highest grade card of V100 for said player then went out found a lower grade card and completed his set. The ignorance of this guy. He's actually a poster on Net54.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Suck at reading comprehension and math! Now let's go for the trifecta.

Then there's this lil nugget about a great ripoff. I'll slow down the keyboard so you can understand.

The person I emailed about his card told me he didn't want to "break" his set. I then offered a lower grade card in exchange for his higher grade card to keep his full set. I know this will come as a huge shock to you, but it wasn't card for card. It was for cash and card.

The person strictly responded he wanted to have a complete set. This person has cards that range from A to 7 and most at 1 to 4. He didn't respond and that was the end of my conversation with him. I'm such a jerk! It was a total of 2 emails. There was no crying, no entitlement or anything else you have suggested or read into it.

I'll put this out there for you as well. True story I had a transaction with a person that sold me the highest grade card of V100 for said player then went out found a lower grade card and completed his set. The ignorance of this guy. He's actually a poster on Net54.

A highly pertinent fact mysteriously and strangely kept out until right now! It is my acumen at math, of course, that should allow me to divine information you didn't disclose, say, or hint at it while repeatedly talking about trading a lower grade card for a higher one! I cannot imagine why you are having problems making deals with people.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

A highly pertinent fact mysteriously and strangely kept out until right now! It is my acumen at math, of course, that should allow me to divine information you didn't disclose, say, or hint at it while repeatedly talking about trading a lower grade card for a higher one! I cannot imagine why you are having problems making deals with people.

It wasn't left out or asked before you're personal attack towards me. The person could very well be a poster here and I'm not going to give the email out word for word. It ended without a response from the other party, and that's where it stayed.

My first response was will you sell, his was I don't want to break the set, my next was how about a lower grade card to keep your set complete and nothing after. Both cash and card from my end for his card.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

When you offered to trade him a lower grade card for his higher grade card, was it straight up or did you also offer cash along with the lower grade card?

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by jayshum

When you offered to trade him a lower grade card for his higher grade card, was it straight up or did you also offer cash along with the lower grade card?

It never got that far because he stopped responding, but yes I would have included cash. His end was all about keeping the set, not about the grade or at least that wasn't the impression I got from him. I'll clarify by saying I did offer cash, but it never got to an amount because he stopped the conversation.

[Mark17]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It never got that far because he stopped responding, but yes I would have included cash. His end was all about keeping the set, not about the grade or at least that wasn't the impression I got from him. I'll clarify by saying I did offer cash, but it never got to an amount because he stopped the conversation.

In the USA, people are allowed to own private property. He can refuse any offer for any reason without explaining anything.

You seem to think you have a better understanding of his collection, and what matters to him (just having the set complete with some cards in lower grade) than he himself does. You don't - he gets to collect as he chooses.

He said no thanks. That's his right, and he's not being unreasonable. If you want to obtain cards, it's a better plan to find people who want to sell, rather than complain because you can't pry a card out of someone's collection who doesn't want to trade/sell.

[Vintagedeputy]

Reading this thread is 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back again.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Reading this thread is 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back again.

Lucky for you, we only got about halfway down page #2 before we gave up.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jayshum

When you offered to trade him a lower grade card for his higher grade card, was it straight up or did you also offer cash along with the lower grade card?

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It never got that far becausehe stopped responding, but yes I would have included cash. His end was all about keeping the set, not about the grade or at least that wasn't the impression I got from him.

So you did NOT actually offer cash alongside the card, because he stopped responding after you offered a lower grade copy.

Now it makes sense why this relevant fact wasn't part of the original telling

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

So you did NOT actually offer cash alongside the card, because he stopped responding after you offered a lower grade copy.

Now it makes sense why this relevant fact wasn't part of the original telling

Yes cash and card were offered. You're relevant fact conspiracy gotcha is just that. I offered cash then a card to help what he wanted. A complete set.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Yes cash and card were offered. You're relevant fact conspiracy gotcha is just that. I offered cash then a card to help what he wanted. A complete set.

The offer is irrelevant. You could have offered a million dollars, and there is nothing wrong with the collector declining and keeping his card. You have no right to it in the slightest, and it doesn't hurt the hobby that he doesn't want to sell. Call people stupid all you want. It's clear here who that applies to.