How to find the commons.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Different ways I'd imagine.

For me I just inquired about a card that a set collector has. No dice won't sell. Took a decade to get the complete set. Doesn't really care about the players in the set, just that it's complete. I even offered to trade him a lower grade for what he had, and no more response. Still a complete set for him. I'm a single player collector, and I just want to get the best I can since there's very few cards for me to collect. It has personal value to me for multiple reasons.

“The hobby” and “your personal interests” are two different things. How is it hurting the hobby for other collectors to not put your collecting over their own? People are not obligated to sell/trade you a card because you want it. There’s a few items I’d like that people won’t sell, but they aren’t hurting the hobby by keeping them and declining my overpay offer. None of us are entitled to an item. Especially if you’re trying to trade them an objectively worse item for an objectively better item. Why would somebody trade you a higher grade copy for a lower grade one? That’s a very bad deal for them.

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by G1911

“The hobby” and “your personal interests” are two different things. How is it hurting the hobby for other collectors to not put your collecting over their own? People are not obligated to sell/trade you a card because you want it. There’s a few items I’d like that people won’t sell, but they aren’t hurting the hobby by keeping them and declining my overpay offer. None of us are entitled to an item.

This. Exactly this.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

“The hobby” and “your personal interests” are two different things. How is it hurting the hobby for other collectors to not put your collecting over their own? People are not obligated to sell/trade you a card because you want it. There’s a few items I’d like that people won’t sell, but they aren’t hurting the hobby by keeping them and declining my overpay offer. None of us are entitled to an item. Especially if you’re trying to trade them an objectively worse item for an objectively better item. Why would somebody trade you a higher grade copy for a lower grade one? That’s a very bad deal for them.

It's not collecting. Again, you're missing context. I just explained it in another post. If a person was looking for the highest grade and that was stated my offer would have never been offered. What was stated was he wanted a complete set and my offer would have still given him that. He's not into high grades as he has A-7 most in the 1 to 4 range. I'm not asking to deal on a HOFer, but a common the guy probably doesn't even know who he is.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

It's not collecting. Again, you're missing context. I just explained it in another post. If a person was looking for the highest grade and that was stated my offer would have never been offered. What was stated was he wanted a complete set and my offer would have still given him that. He's not into high grades as he has A-7 most in the 1 to 4 range. I'm not asking to deal on a HOFer, but a common the guy probably doesn't even know who he is.

... Are you seriously arguing that a set collector wanting to keep his higher grade card is not collecting because they didn't give it to you for a lower grade copy? Offering someone a lower grade copy of the card (which you apparently do not even have!) for a nicer one is not of any benefit to the other collector; that's them giving you something for something lesser. Why would they do that? Other people are not obligated to give you things. Other people who do not service your desires are still collectors. A collector is defined as somebody who lets you rip them off and give you whatever you want.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

... Are you seriously arguing that a set collector wanting to keep his higher grade card is not collecting because they didn't give it to you for a lower grade copy? Offering someone a lower grade copy of the card (which you apparently do not even have!) for a nicer one is not of any benefit to the other collector; that's them giving you something for something lesser. Why would they do that? Other people are not obligated to give you things. Other people who do not service your desires are still collectors. A collector is defined as somebody who lets you rip them off and give you whatever you want.

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

Now you're trying to out-Greg the OG (original Greg)!

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

Is reading comprehension that much of a lost art?
Seriously is it?

Yes. I’m the dumbest fellow alive. But even I know I’m not entitled to anyone’s cards and don’t make threads bitching someone didn’t let me rip them off.

[Vintage Vern]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes. I’m the dumbest fellow alive. But even I know I’m not entitled to anyone’s cards and don’t make threads bitching someone didn’t let me rip them off.

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

[ronniehatesjazz]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

Sorry but you're just clueless man. Reminds me of the jokester on here a few years back trying to trade up from a $1.00 card to a Jackie Robinson rookie. You're oblivious to your own foolishness.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

You made a thread that is 50% whining that someone didn't trade you a higher grade copy of a card for a lower grade copy of the same card. That is a rip off offer. Why would a stranger give you a more valuable higher grade copy for a low grade? Why are you so incredibly entitled as to believe that your great higher purpose is more important and makes this in any way reasonable? Why would set collectors give you better, more valuable copies just because you are special and 'want it more' (though apparently not enough to make a fair offer)?

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

You say so, I'll gladly agree.

Where have I stated I'm entitled to anyone's card? By suggesting a trade? How would I be ripping someone off?

When you offered to trade him a lower grade card for his higher grade card, was it straight up or did you also offer cash along with the lower grade card?