Harrison Butker graduation speech

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Yes, that is. But again, it's the stand of much of the Catholic Church prior to the current Pope. It's not just him on a soapbox in Central Park, it's addressing a specific group.

Also, this track of thought is not my bag...it's why I chose my own path of belief. I just thought it a bit strange that the reaction is pointed as though he said it on the Tonight Show and not a extremely strict Catholic University.

Why does the audience make it any better? Would preaching racist filth to an audience of KKK members make it less pernicious? To me, it's a man with some stature in the community due to his athletic accomplishments making an anti-gay remark. Period.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why does the audience make it any better? Would preaching racist filth to an audience of KKK members make it less pernicious? To me, it's a man with some stature in the community due to his athletic accomplishments making an anti-gay remark. Period.

I am not defending his statements I don't believe in, only his right to say them.

There has been a lot going on it the past 8 months of people yelling horrifically awful things against others they have no idea about and attacking them in ways that infuriate me. I would like it to not happen but the solution to making that happen could be far worse in the long run than verbal altercations.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Sure, he can say whatever he wants, but so can his critics.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sure, he can say whatever he wants, but so can his critics.

Completely fair and that would be the appropriate response.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I find it ironic....

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Data reflects....

You can't imagine how many people find it ironic that someone who claims to know of data that supports their world view or current argument goes silent when they are asked to provide sources/specifics of that data. Makes them seem like they are just making things up.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

You can't imagine how many people find it ironic that someone who claims to know of data that supports their world view or current argument goes silent when they are asked to provide sources/specifics of that data. Makes them seem like they are just making things up.

Seriously? I can produce "data" to support my opinion just like any poster can support "data" to support their opinion. Are you not aware how easy it is to manipulate data in today's world?
It really comes down to life experience and what your life experiences have led you to believe what is in the best interest of raising healthy children. You can believe that a child is as resilient as adults when faced with less than optimal circumstances, I choose to believe otherwise based on my life experience. Children forced to start behind the starting lines because of adults bad choices is a disservice to children, you won't convince me otherwise.