The trend in Wagner cards

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

$75k!
https://bid.robertedwardauctions.com...?itemid=168537

Wha? Is it rarer than the Cobb and WaJo in that set?

[packs]

Hopefully cards will get too expensive soon and we'll see a trickle down into his autographs too. His signature is still pretty affordable for a universal tier one guy:

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Wha? Is it rarer than the Cobb and WaJo in that set?

no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.

Johnson has very few portrait cards and his M116 is far from abundant. No blue, but I bought a pastel not long ago for a tiny fraction of what a Wagner would now cost.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Johnson has very few portrait cards and his M116 is far from abundant. No blue, but I bought a pastel not long ago for a tiny fraction of what a Wagner would now cost.

you're usually one step ahead of the pumpers, Pete! I've always liked m116's for their more realistic images over t206 and their relative scarcity comparatively.

[brunswickreeves]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

no, it's not. There is definitely a perception that honus doesn't have a ton of cards to choose from. While I believe he has many...there are not nearly as many to choose from as cobbs...there's no question about that.

Portraits have been on fire last few years as they are similar to the t206.

to me...these prices are pretty crazy on m116's. i'm not sure if they are legit or being manipulated.

My 9/10/23 post in this thread has a POP breakdown of Wagner playing days cards: at that time there were 3,576. I had a Cobb POP count I was working on but ran out of steam after over 100 variations and 10K+ cards…by comparison Joe Jackson playing days cards which I also created a total POP post on are fewer than 1,500…

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by brunswickreeves

My 9/10/23 post in this thread has a POP breakdown of Wagner playing days cards: at that time there were 3,576. I had a Cobb POP count I was working on but ran out of steam after over 100 variations and 10K+ cards…by comparison Joe Jackson playing days cards which I also created a total POP post on are fewer than 1,500…

While Wagner holds the top spot ala T206, Cobb far outweighs the Dutchman in aesthetically pleasing cards.

[Leon]

Crazy valuations!

The M116 Wags pastel must be 25K-40k+? now....in a 5 holder.
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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Leon

Crazy valuations!

The M116 Wags pastel must be 25K-40k+? now....in a 5 holder.
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More!!

[chiprop]

Doubt it. More like 25-30k

[ValKehl]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Wha? Is it rarer than the Cobb and WaJo in that set?

Hank, I don't know much about the M116 set, but I'll venture a guess that the WaJo with the "OVER 300 SUBJECTS" back is rarer.

[Rhotchkiss]

PSA and SGC pop reports for Cobb, Wagner, and Johnson. The blue is fairly rare