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Old 02-18-2024, 02:46 PM
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m116 sporting life blue Wagz going strong in REA...
It would not surprise me if someone is trying to pump up the value of this issue. I have one out for trade, not complaining, but I find the trend odd in light of where the overall market seems to be.
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It would not surprise me if someone is trying to pump up the value of this issue. I have one out for trade, not complaining, but I find the trend odd in light of where the overall market seems to be.
Peter, my gut is if you put your Wagner up for sale, rather than trade, you would get big value. It’s tough to trade a card of that value. Also, many times I put a card on the BST asking $X, and after getting no bites, consigned it to an AH where I get 130%-200% of $X. BST is not always the best place to sell such a major card.
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Peter, my gut is if you put your Wagner up for sale, rather than trade, you would get big value. It’s tough to trade a card of that value. Also, many times I put a card on the BST asking $X, and after getting no bites, consigned it to an AH where I get 130%-200% of $X. BST is not always the best place to sell such a major card.
I don't disagree, but I still don't think these levels (we will see where the REA one ends up, it's 60 pre vig now) are sustainable for this issue.
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I don't disagree, but I still don't think these levels (we will see where the REA one ends up, it's 60 pre vig now) are sustainable for this issue.
Modern money is making a bet on Wagner cards right now.
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I finally picked up my first Wagner card at auction last night.
Although not from his playing days(or even Pre-War for that matter), it is multiple times more rare than his almighty T206.

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Was watching the T206 Matty, dark cap, PSA 5, really nice for the grade. Basic Piedmont back. Ended w/bp 7800. - OMG. Has to be a new all time high for that card in that grade ! Has the pre-war market bottomed and now trending up in 2024?
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Wha? Is it rarer than the Cobb and WaJo in that set?
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Modern money is making a bet on Wagner cards right now.
I agree.

Also, the pop on a PSA 5 and higher is 14.

Besides the T206 and M116, I can only think of only a few issues that depict a playing age Wagner that actually looks like him. I am far from an expert on prewar, but he just doesn't have too many really nice-looking cards.

The ultra-modern market can be manipulated rather easily, and I expect to now see a bunch of Wagners hitting the market. From M116 and beyond ....
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What does this do, if anything, for the pastel?
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Besides the T206 and M116, I can only think of only a few issues that depict a playing age Wagner that actually looks like him. I am far from an expert on prewar, but he just doesn't have too many really nice-looking cards.
Huh? Wagner has many playing age cards. LOL. Not sure if you are referring to him or the card not being nice looking but imo many of his playing age cards are good looking cards.
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Huh? Wagner has many playing age cards. LOL. Not sure if you are referring to him or the card not being nice looking but imo many of his playing age cards are good looking cards.
As I mentioned, he doesn't have many cards that look like him, save the few I had mentioned. Just my opinion. Your opinion may be different, and that is okay.
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