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Old 06-21-2023, 06:51 AM
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Wow...

Set emotions and kid favorites aside... READ The Fix Is In, by Daniel Ginsburg.

All 3 had HOF careers, but it is the "other stuff" that does them in.

Clemens - NO

Bonds - Maybe, one day

Rose - As a guest, any time he buys a ticket for admission, on a day by day basis, I think they're open 363 days a year; but absolutely no induction.

Rose was a tremendous competitor, awesome ballplayer. Clemens was a dominant pitcher. Bonds had longevity as a player, and the balls he hit had their own longevity as they sailed outa the ball parks.

Read Ginsburg's book. The league's evolved away from being a drinking and gambling sport that gentile folk would avoid... it wasn't America's game back then. Educate yourselves.
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I’d put them all
In eventually. If you think they need to be punished and only get in once they pass I understand such thinking. But all three are all time great players and should be in the hall.o see no rational reason to keep out bonds and Clemens. Why allow lesser cheats in the hall but not those who performed the best? So it’s ok to juice if you aren’t already an all time great? What an asinine position.

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Old 06-21-2023, 06:13 PM
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Read Ginsburg's book. The league's evolved away from being a drinking and gambling sport that gentile folk would avoid... it wasn't America's game back then. Educate yourselves.
I would be more sympathetic to MLBs dudgeon about such lowbrow behavior if they weren't currently being sponsored by two sportsbooks, Fanduel and MGM Resorts.

That said, my only rigid opinion on the matter is that Rose should be kept out of the Hall solely because of what he did to Ray Fosse in the 1970 All Star Game.
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