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[G1911]

Ivermectin is also on the WHO’s list of essential medicines for humans.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Ivermectin is also on the WHO’s list of essential medicines for humans.

Like in Dr Seuss?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Like in Dr Seuss?

A persons a person, no matter how small.

My real hot take is that the King’s Stilts is the best Seuss book. The Lorax and Horton Hears a Who right behind.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by G1911

A persons a person, no matter how small.

My real hot take is that the King’s Stilts is the best Seuss book. The Lorax and Horton Hears a Who right behind.

What no Butter Battle Book?

" That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars and whether they had one, or not, upon thars."

And it's sad to say, the new regime , s more like Sylvester McMonkey McBean

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

What no Butter Battle Book?

" That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars and whether they had one, or not, upon thars."

And it's sad to say, the new regime , s more like Sylvester McMonkey McBean

I'd forgotten all about this one. The satire went over my toddler head, but I loved Seuss books. Those and the little golden books were the first thing I recall reading

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by G1911

Ivermectin is also on the WHO’s list of essential medicines for humans.

Oddly enough, for the same things it is used to treat in horses and cattle

Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

Sure didn't see that coming.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Oddly enough, for the same things it is used to treat in horses and cattle

Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

Sure didn't see that coming.

Yes, I am very well aware. It is used for both. The media and the left billed it as morons advocating using horse dewormer, which is an intentional lie by omission as they pretended it was crazy to take this commonly used human medication by excising this information. We had multiple people in the Covid thread unaware this was, in fact, commonly prescribed to humans.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I am very well aware. It is used for both. The media and the left billed it as morons advocating using horse dewormer, which is an intentional lie by omission as they pretended it was crazy to take this commonly used human medication by excising this information. We had multiple people in the Covid thread unaware this was, in fact, commonly prescribed to humans.

On a serious post. The stuff you get from a doctor isn't apple flavored and made FOR humans. There is a big difference.

The studies that showed it worked in the recovery of Covid was from 3rd world countries. What it did was kill the parasites in them so their own immune system could fight Covid better.

To be fair I have taken "things" intended for animals as it is higher quality than any vitamin/supplement you will find on ANY store shelf. Everything your dog takes for example that comes from a Vet is tested and has to be of a certain standard. The stuff you buy in a store could be anything and is not regulated.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by bnorth

On a serious post. The stuff you get from a doctor isn't apple flavored and made FOR humans. There is a big difference.

The studies that showed it worked in the recovery of Covid was from 3rd world countries. What it did was kill the parasites in them so their own immune system could fight Covid better.

To be fair I have taken "things" intended for animals as it is higher quality than any vitamin/supplement you will find on ANY store shelf. Everything your dog takes for example that comes from a Vet is tested and has to be of a certain standard. The stuff you buy in a store could be anything and is not regulated.

I am not and have never argued that Ivermectin treats Covid. I have no idea if it does, as I’ve said in the Covid thread. It was decided immediately, before any genuine testing, to deride it as horse wormer and dismiss it for humans. A good example of how the media will often lie by telling a small part of the story - the argument wasn’t “after serious and genuine study, we’ve found little connection between Ivermectin and positive Covid outcome rates”, it was “Idiots want you to drink horse dewormer”, which is, of course, a gross mischaracterization. It is horse dewormer, and it commonly prescribed to humans. It is not an animal medication, it is an animal and human medication. Labelled as only for animals and then smeared for this reason was the tactic.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by G1911

Yes, I am very well aware. It is used for both. The media and the left billed it as morons advocating using horse dewormer, which is an intentional lie by omission as they pretended it was crazy to take this commonly used human medication by excising this information. We had multiple people in the Covid thread unaware this was, in fact, commonly prescribed to humans.

Man, I hate to break it to you, but emanations from right wing noise machine notwithstanding, it was morons advocating the use of horse dewormer. I couldn't find ivermectin paste for the longest time. And, even today, all dewormers, even those based on fenbendazole or pyrantel pamoate, are kept in a locked cabinet at my local farm store; a privilege previously only enjoyed by guns, ammo, and chainsaw chains.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Man, I hate to break it to you, but emanations from right wing noise machine notwithstanding, it was morons advocating the use of horse dewormer. I couldn't find ivermectin paste for the longest time. And, even today, all dewormers, even those based on fenbendazole or pyrantel pamoate, are kept in a locked cabinet at my local farm store; a privilege previously only enjoyed by guns, ammo, and chainsaw chains.

I am confident you are well aware the pretense that "horse dewormer" is an accurate description of Ivermectin, which is also for humans and very commonly prescribed to them is political crap.

I disagree with Irv that Ivermectin has been shown to help Covid. I know for a fact this "LOL morons want humans to take horse dewormer" narrative that works by not acknowledging or straight up denying (as some in the Covid thread humorously tried to do) it is a drug for humans is a complete fiction.

I am also aware that most people are just going to parrot whatever their tribe says, no matter how obviously false it is.

[Peter_Spaeth]

There are countless things in science where the data just isn't conclusive one way or the other, and depending on your point of view, or agenda, you can argue the case either way and cherry pick what supports you. I see this almost every time I research some product or drug claim. Bottom line, when someone offering something touts it as beng evidence-based, don't accept it at face value.

[carlsonjok]

Originally Posted by G1911

I am confident you are well aware the pretense that "horse dewormer" is an accurate description of Ivermectin, which is also for humans and very commonly prescribed to them is political crap.

Yes, I am aware that it has uses beyond an anti-parasite for livestock. I actually posted where it's use is indicated upthread. I am also aware that very few doctors would actually prescribe it as a COVID treatment.

Which led to an army of mouth breathing dimwits to haul tail to their local Tractor Supply to clear the shelves of Duramectin and Sheep Drench because some conspiracist shock jock told them that the only reason they can't buy it from their local Walgreens is because all those pointy-headed scientists are just part of the New World Order, Agenda 21, Bilderberg financed cabal intent on emptying America of the plain folk of the land in order to turn it into a Marxist utopia where you are assigned an appellation via Random Drag Queen Name Generator and pronouns from a list of 57 options; so head on out to your local Farm and Fleet, save your family's lives and strike a blow for freedumb at the same time! And before you do, please check out our store where 50 pound tubs of Armageddon Rations are 20% for the first 100 buyers!



Some of the above may be hyperbole. Some.

More seriously, I know you want to blame it all on the media finding one random Cletus in Bug Tussle, Missouri eating ivermectin paste. I am a horse owner. As are most of my friends. It wasn't just MSNBC and CNN. It was all over the equestrian media also. And, get this. I was over at ValleyVet.com getting my spring vaccinations and, for giggles, looked at the page for ivermectin wormer. The following disclaimer was in bright red:

COVID-19 ALERT CONCERNING DURVET IVERMECTIN PRODUCTS: WARNING! A number of Durvet products including Duramectin Equine Dewormer, Ivermectin Equine Dewormer, Ivermectin Sheep Drench, Ivermectin Pour On, Ivermectin Injection and Ivermectin Plus Injection contain the anti-parasite ingredient Ivermectin. Despite media reports that Ivermectin could potentially be used to treat people with COVID-19, these products are not safe or approved for human use, which could cause severe personal injury or death.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Yes, I am aware that it has uses beyond an anti-parasite for livestock. I actually posted where it's use is indicated upthread.

Yes, after a post highlighting that the characterization that ignores its frequent use for humans, and then followed by "it was morons advocating the use of horse dewormer", yet again ignoring that it is not weird for humans to use Ivermectin. As I have said multiple times, I am not convinced that it works, but the mainstream narrative here likes to center around a fiction: that it is stupid for people to use this, completely ignoring it's long history of exactly that before it was decided this was political.

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Which led to an army of mouth breathing dimwits to haul tail to their local Tractor Supply to clear the shelves of Duramectin and Sheep Drench because some conspiracist shock jock told them that the only reason they can't buy it from their local Walgreens is because all those pointy-headed scientists are just part of the New World Order, Agenda 21, Bilderberg financed cabal intent on emptying America of the plain folk of the land in order to turn it into a Marxist utopia where you are assigned an appellation via Random Drag Queen Name Generator and pronouns from a list of 57 options; so head on out to your local Farm and Fleet, save your family's lives and strike a blow for freedumb at the same time! And before you do, please check out our store where 50 pound tubs of Armageddon Rations are 20% for the first 100 buyers!



Some of the above may be hyperbole. Some.

More seriously, I know you want to blame it all on the media finding one random Cletus in Bug Tussle, Missouri eating ivermectin paste. I am a horse owner. As are most of my friends. It wasn't just MSNBC and CNN. It was all over the equestrian media also. And, get this. I was over at ValleyVet.com getting my spring vaccinations and, for giggles, looked at the page for ivermectin wormer. The following disclaimer was in bright red:

COVID-19 ALERT CONCERNING DURVET IVERMECTIN PRODUCTS: WARNING! A number of Durvet products including Duramectin Equine Dewormer, Ivermectin Equine Dewormer, Ivermectin Sheep Drench, Ivermectin Pour On, Ivermectin Injection and Ivermectin Plus Injection contain the anti-parasite ingredient Ivermectin. Despite media reports that Ivermectin could potentially be used to treat people with COVID-19, these products are not safe or approved for human use, which could cause severe personal injury or death.

I find extremist caricatures of leftists by right wingers to always be absurd. So for extremist caricatures of right wingers by leftists. I am not in either camp so there is nothing to say with this; it's just incredibly biased attacks from angry people that are not based in reason. I have never read a reasonable argument that begins by saying anyone who disagrees is a mouth-breathing dimwit.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Oddly enough, for the same things it is used to treat in horses and cattle

Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

Sure didn't see that coming.

Has the FDA approved bleach injections yet?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Has the FDA approved bleach injections yet?

No, but they did finally admit, just like every other virus, Bleach can kill it. It isnt some novel virus which is so new and different it cant be killed with bleach, or soap and warm water. In that effect, Just like the common cold.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

No, but they did finally admit, just like every other virus, Bleach can kill it. It isnt some novel virus which is so new and different it cant be killed with bleach, or soap and warm water. In that effect, Just like the common cold.

Nobody ever denied bleach could kill it, topically. The problem is you can't safely ingest bleach.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Nobody ever denied bleach could kill it, topically. The problem is you can't safely ingest bleach.

I don't know how safe it is but I can guarantee you can take it and not die. I have some interesting friends. I have watched more than one take a swig so they could pass a test that if they failed they would go back to getting free room and board.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I guess sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils.

[Kzoo]

Originally Posted by carlsonjok

Oddly enough, for the same things it is used to treat in horses and cattle

Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea.

Sure didn't see that coming.

Ivermectin from Tractor Supply kicked my wife's case of pneumonia in the ass last winter when the other 2 drugs prescribed by doctors from local immediate care centers did absolutely nothing. Knocked it down in less than a week. She was happy, and we still get emails from TSC asking how our horse us doing, lol.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Ivermectin from Tractor Supply kicked my wife's case of pneumonia in the ass last winter when the other 2 drugs prescribed by doctors from local immediate care centers did absolutely nothing. Knocked it down in less than a week. She was happy, and we still get emails from TSC asking how our horse us doing, lol.

Does she call you "Wilburrrrrrrr"?

Jokes aside.. dont believe what you know first hand to be true. Rely on people that say they have your best interest at heart.


We cant stop it, it's like fighting air. It can stay on surfaces for weeks, etc etc .

The US involvement has nothing to do with Burisma. That's conspiracy theory. P

[irv]

Originally Posted by Kzoo

Ivermectin from Tractor Supply kicked my wife's case of pneumonia in the ass last winter when the other 2 drugs prescribed by doctors from local immediate care centers did absolutely nothing. Knocked it down in less than a week. She was happy, and we still get emails from TSC asking how our horse us doing, lol.

Oh, stop with the nonsense already. That was just a fluke, inconclusive despite Fauci being on record as saying he needs people to "solely" take the vaccines and nothing else.

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Does she call you "Wilburrrrrrrr"?

Jokes aside.. dont believe what you know first hand to be true. Rely on people that say they have your best interest at heart.


We cant stop it, it's like fighting air. It can stay on surfaces for weeks, etc etc .

The US involvement has nothing to do with Burisma. That's conspiracy theory. P

And another conspiracy theorist.
Ted, I thought you knew better?
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