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Old 12-15-2022, 01:42 AM
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
Unless your broad is into oversized things.

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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
I don't know. Look at the Jackie 47-66 Exhibits Jackie Robinson card. Has gone up at about the same percentage price increase as the 48/49 Leaf Jackie. Which one has more room to run is difficult to say.

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Not sure what my pick would be, but I love exhibits and postcards. All Cobb RC postcards have shot up and one that went through the stratosphere would be the Gehrig Exhibits RC! So I wouldn’t dismiss those slightly bigger cards!

Even larger ones like cabinet cards can explode too: W600 Cobb!
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I’ve always liked rare stuff. Some people may think only more common/iconic/mainstream type cards are the way to go. However with rare stuff , regardless of size, it doesn’t take nearly as much demand increase to move the needle in a big way price wise! It will be interesting to see where any future sales of a card like the 1914 BN Ruth go if any surface for sale!
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I’ve always liked rare stuff. Some people may think only more common/iconic/mainstream type cards are the way to go. However with rare stuff , regardless of size, it doesn’t take nearly as much demand increase to move the needle in a big way price wise! It will be interesting to see where any future sales of a card like the 1914 BN Ruth go if any surface for sale!
I think the BN Ruth exceeds T206 Wagner on hammer price next time it comes up, by a healthy margin. $4,000,000+ maybe.
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I think the BN Ruth exceeds T206 Wagner on hammer price next time it comes up, by a healthy margin. $4,000,000+ maybe.
Many years ago both cards in a PSA 1 were sold in the same auction. Ruth went for $450K and Wagner for $400K. Just can't remember which auction house.
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Any RC of someone who becomes a HOFer through the veterans committee.

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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
Well, not necessarily broad appeal but increased appeal; something has to make the demand go up.

I doubt it will be something esoteric like rare backs or ink spill variations. Zero chance it is some vintage ATG being re-evaluated by future collectors.

It could be something societal I suppose, akin to the recent rise of the Black pioneers resulting from the recognition of Jackie Robinson's accomplishments and the Negro Leagues as a whole. Maybe with Senga and Yoshida coming into the league, there will be a surge in interest in Japanese players and the 65T Murakami rookie will take off.
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Well, not necessarily broad appeal but increased appeal; something has to make the demand go up.

I doubt it will be something esoteric like rare backs or ink spill variations. Zero chance it is some vintage ATG being re-evaluated by future collectors.

It could be something societal I suppose, akin to the recent rise of the Black pioneers resulting from the recognition of Jackie Robinson's accomplishments and the Negro Leagues as a whole. Maybe with Senga and Yoshida coming into the league, there will be a surge in interest in Japanese players and the 65T Murakami rookie will take off.
I think you could be right. Unlike the Negro Leagues, Japanese baseball has a long tradition of card production/collecting. There is enough of it out there to be able to reach the broader collecting community, and an argument could be made that the JPBL is just as deserving as the Negro League to be integrated into the MLB history books. Oh cards have skyrocketed the last few years, and it’s only matter of time before other JPBL greats follow suit. Throw a stud like Ohtani into the mix for exposure, and it makes a compelling case, IMO.
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When I saw the title of this thread I wondered what we all would have said to this question in 2013.

My gut reaction is that in 10 years Pele and Messi cards might spike the most as trading cards could go more global, with a push from the US as more American investors look for the next big thing and recognize the global popularity of that sport and go for those guys. I singled out Pele and Messi because they're pretty much the only soccer players I can name, and that counts for something, kind of like how in the past decade Ruth has spiked dramatically as more people got into this hobby, especially during COVID, and then with bets on this being a safer investment than the market (or at least a good way to diversify your holdings).

If we limit this to baseball cards then, like many others have said, I feel all things Jackie Robinson should spike, with lots of room for growth on his Bond Breads, Leafs, Bowmans and his 1952 Topps. I think the latter will go up the most since "1952 Topps" has that association to the famed 1952 Mantle that T206 as a whole has to the T206 Wagner. Jackie's got a historical significance where he's well-known outside of baseball, too.

Then again (returning to my opening sentence) I started collecting vintage around 2010, took a break in 2015 when my first kid was born, relapsed for a bit in 2016, then took a break in 2017 when my second kid was born and came back to the hobby early last year. In 2013 I would have looked at the price of cards for pre-war HOFers and thought they were close to maxed out and it was time for Aaron, Mays, Robinson and Williams to go nuts. Instead it has been the old, top-tier HOFers who spiked the most. Ruth, Young, Johnson, Cobb, Wagner.

So I'll say in the end it's Boston-era Ruth cards, his Baltimore minor league cards (good luck finding or affording one) and stuff from Messi and Pele that was produced before COVID. I could be horribly wrong!
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When I saw the title of this thread I wondered what we all would have said to this question in 2013.

My gut reaction is that in 10 years Pele and Messi cards might spike the most as trading cards could go more global, with a push from the US as more American investors look for the next big thing and recognize the global popularity of that sport and go for those guys. I singled out Pele and Messi because they're pretty much the only soccer players I can name, and that counts for something, kind of like how in the past decade Ruth has spiked dramatically as more people got into this hobby, especially during COVID, and then with bets on this being a safer investment than the market (or at least a good way to diversify your holdings).

If we limit this to baseball cards then, like many others have said, I feel all things Jackie Robinson should spike, with lots of room for growth on his Bond Breads, Leafs, Bowmans and his 1952 Topps. I think the latter will go up the most since "1952 Topps" has that association to the famed 1952 Mantle that T206 as a whole has to the T206 Wagner. Jackie's got a historical significance where he's well-known outside of baseball, too.

Then again (returning to my opening sentence) I started collecting vintage around 2010, took a break in 2015 when my first kid was born, relapsed for a bit in 2016, then took a break in 2017 when my second kid was born and came back to the hobby early last year. In 2013 I would have looked at the price of cards for pre-war HOFers and thought they were close to maxed out and it was time for Aaron, Mays, Robinson and Williams to go nuts. Instead it has been the old, top-tier HOFers who spiked the most. Ruth, Young, Johnson, Cobb, Wagner.

So I'll say in the end it's Boston-era Ruth cards, his Baltimore minor league cards (good luck finding or affording one) and stuff from Messi and Pele that was produced before COVID. I could be horribly wrong!
Too late. Goldin sold a Pele card for $486,000 last year.
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Too late. Goldin sold a Pele card for $486,000 last year.
I wouldn't be surprised if $486K looks small in a few years.
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Diana Taurasi is accumulating stats like few in any sport ever have. Last week she became the first WNBA player to score more than 10,000 points in a career. The next highest total is under 7500. That is Ruth/Gretzky type numbers. She is also very accessible to fans. It wasn’t long ago that virtually all WNBA players were fan friendly. This has changed over the last season or two, perhaps COVID-related. Stars like Breanna Stewart and Sabrina Ionescu will no longer sign autographs. A’ja Wilson is also a very reluctant signer.
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
The 25 Gehrig and 21 Ruth Exhibits have had astonishing growth, despite the lack of a "broad" appeal.
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
I do not agree with this. Lots of oversized cards have gone us significantly in the last decade, such W600 Cobb, Wagner and Matty, all sorts of Cobb postcards, 1921 Exhibit Ruth, 1925 Exhibit Gehrig, etc.
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What single card will increase the most.

If we are talking about sheer numbers of dollars increase, then a very expensive card stands the best chance to increase the most. A T206 Wagner or '52 Mantle will increase more dollars than any $1-20.k current value card we might mention. Heck, a T206 Wagner may easily increase over a million dollars in 10 years. A Hank Aaron RC, or a T206 Cobb red, or a '33 Goudey Ruth will never increase a million dollars in 10 years.

Now if we talk % increase, then a lower value card might take the cake. I could see a semi-prominent $1.-10.k card perhaps doubling for a 100% increase. What specific card might that be? A lot of good choices have been presented so far.
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Zero chance that it will be something oversized like an exhibit or a postcard. Nothing wrong with collecting those, or anything else, but whatever it is, it has to have broad appeal. Those never will.
I was shocked to see how much Wheaties moved in the Pandemic hike. Lou Gehrig especially, but some of the other major names as well. Jimmie Foxx doubled in value, and Lou Gehrig tripled or quadrupled (based on my $100 auction purchase of Gehrig in 2019). Joe Dimaggio was somewhere in between. I'm wondering what their new prices will settle at.

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