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1/1 2023-24 Fanatics/Topps Signed Platinum Refractor Prism Logoman.... Victor Wembanyama (bi-lingual version) PSA 10+ (uncirculated)
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Wow, the bi-lingual version. Those are the ones where the logoman patch is from a jersey actually worn in an official game by the player on the card.
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2001 Sue Bird rookie card in PSA10 or 2004 Diana Taurasi rookie card in PSA10. This is a serious answer. I think woman's basketball will continue to increase in popularity and these two cards are genuine condition rarities of possibly the two greatest WNBA players ever.
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Jay's choice at least explains the path by which this could happen. On so many other answers, especially for baseball cards, and I am guilty of this as well, there seems to be some assumption that future generations are going to somehow make a more realistic assessment than the present one, and so cards in the future won't be mispriced/undervalued. But what's the basis for that? I mean every few months someone starts a thread about undervalued cards and players and we always hear about Foxx and Collins and Spahn and Musial, but decades go by and they are STILL undervalued. What's gonna change?
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Four phrases I have coined that sum up today's hobby: No consequences. Stuff trumps all. The flip is the commoodity. Animal Farm grading. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 12-14-2022 at 10:23 PM. |
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If I had to pick 1 card I would guess the star 101 Jordan. If it has to be baseball, 51 Mantle. Like Peter I highly doubt under appreciated players will suddenly sky rocket. The only player I would guess this could happen with is Satchel Paige.
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But, on-field performance is only one element that drives demand. Everyone worth a ton is an all-time great, but not every all-time great is worth a ton.
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I think Musial’s kindness and accessibility hurts his value in the autograph realm too. He’s fairly cheap because he was so gracious with fans.
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Many words I understand individually but not in this sequence.
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Well, It does have 16 names like all the kids want, and it is PSA 10 1 of 1!!! I'd say it's more likely to be 1 Doll HAir...
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Who knows? In ten years, maybe the grading companies will have finally done it; Spinal Tap Grading: Up to eleven
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Someone here now, who's here 10 years from now, please dig this thread out of the past...
The card with the most gain in value will be the white border tobacco cards of Ty Cobb, his portrait with that green background. That card will see the greatest price change. Cobb's T206 green portrait. Ten years from now, do the math, that'll be the card. There will be more collectors then, many of them chasing cards of Hall of Famers from their playing days. And that will lead to collecting all 4 of his T206 cards, and that will push this card the most. |
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I would wager every penny I'll ever own that Jackie Robinson cards will outperform Ty Cobb cards over the next N number of years. |
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It seems like the vintage guys that spike the most are a product of what is happening in the modern game at the time. My recollection of the 80s is that Ozzie Smith and Johnny Bench were very popular (thanks, in no small part, to a TV show that featured them every weekend), and it seemed like alot of attention was paid to great fielders and catchers of the past, like Brooks Robinson, Pee Wee Reese and Yogi Berra. They don't seem as high on collectors' minds these days.
Similarly, 80s pitchers seemed to be in the public consciousness for long stretches, with guys like Carlton, Seaver, Ryan and Palmer making every All Star Game, and guys like Koufax, Gibson, Spahn and Feller were great pickups (and debates of who the best "old time" pitcher - Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Matty, etc. happened outside of Net54). Outside of Koufax and maybe Gibson's rookie, not alot of upward movement on the 30s-60s greats now that "great" pitchers are changing every season. In the late 80s and early 90s, with a modern focus on great BA hitters like Gwynn, Boggs and Mattingly, Ty Cobb, Ted Williams and Pete Rose were on everybody's wantlist. Then, Canseco, McGwire and Sosa happened, and Aaron, Mantle, and Mays were all the rage. Perhaps the greatest example, Rickie Henderson made people care about Lou Brock for about 5 years. It seems like the past 20 years, it has been about championships (Jeter), 5-tool players (Trout) and unique skillsets (Ohtani), mixed with pristine off-field reputations to counter the PED era. And a general societal shift towards breaking down barriers has caused guys like Jackie, Roberto, Satchel, and Josh Gibson to skyrocket. Hard to predict what can happen 25 years from now. Maybe patriotism will be all the rage, and players like Ted Williams and Ernie Banks that served in the military will see their cards take off. Or, maybe overcoming physical limitations will be celebrated, and a player like Jim Abbott catches the hobby's attention. Maybe "error cards" will have a run like they have in other hobbies like stamps and coins. The only guarantee is that the cards on my wantlist will never see a correction and each new offering will test the previous all time high. |
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That said, I do think Jackie cards will be one of the bigger winners over the next decade. I am not sure his cards beat Cobb, but I expect Jackie stuff will do as well as most. The only thing holding them back is a massive spike in value over the past few years (more than most other players I think), so maybe less room to run. Who knows. I stick to the HOF studs who played before WWII, and i have done pretty good Last edited by Rhotchkiss; 12-23-2022 at 04:11 PM. |
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For us small time spenders, I agree with a prior post.
Your mid-career Hank Aaron & Willie Mays cards in EX-NM/MT that present very well with near perfect centering, great color, spot on focus, nice color, no print marks/blips. I have put in very healthy bids on a few of these recently and been outbid - not by just one bid, but several bids. Kinda blows my mind how strong the prices are for these vintage big name beauties. But here is the kicker - they seem to keep increasing in price every auction every week/month. Last months NM7 Aaron at $500.-1,000. is this months Aaron at $700.-1,200. And I bet will be next months Aaron at $1,000.-1,500. |
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