T206 "Magie" Error Prices

[Snapolit1]

OK, as everyone is on the same page, I will be the contrarian (a.k.a. self-designated sh*tkicker).

Who is going to care one whit about Sherry Magie in 20 years?

Is the next generation of investment bankers and crypto millionaires going to go bonkers over him for some reason?

Is he about to get the ESPN Final Dance treatment?

[53toppscollector]

For a lot of sets, I think that kind of logic applies. But I think T206 cards capture the imagination of collectors of all ages. I think even younger collectors understand the importance of the Wagner, and once they learn about the Wagner, they will get lured into the rest of the set. The Magie is needed for a complete set, and there will be collectors out there looking to complete the set (possibly up to Wagner and Doyle) for the rest of time. Given the very limited supply, I think it is unlikely this card will decline in value. It isn't like another 200-300 copies will just show up tomorrow.

[tedzan]

Steve

I usually agree with you....but I cannot this time.

I acquired my first MAGIE card in the 1980's. It cost me 600 for a Vg one. I sold it for 1500 in the mid 1990's.

In 2006, I bought another MAGIE card for my PIEDMONT set. It cost me 4000 for a Vg one.

Nowadays, MAGIE cards in similar condition are selling (direct sales or Auctions) for 10K, or more.


TED Z

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[chriskim]

I know people who has multiple copies of Magie and Plank. Pretty sure there are people has multiple Wagner, Cobb back and possibly Doyle Nat'l. I don't see their prices would drop at all....

[Snapolit1]

Lol. Just trying to stir the pot as usual . . . .

Ted hope you are staying healthy and well. I believe you are in Jersey as am I. Seems like every other person I know right now (including my wife) has tested positive. Be safe out there as they said on Hill Street Blues.

Originally Posted by tedzan

Steve

I usually agree with you....but I cannot this time.

I acquired my first MAGIE card in the 1980's. It cost me 600 for a Vg one. I sold it for 1500 in the mid 1990's.

In 2006, I bought another MAGIE card for my PIEDMONT set. It cost me 4000 for a Vg one.

Nowadays, MAGIE cards in similar condition are selling (direct sales or Auctions) for 10K, or more.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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[Snapolit1]

If any of you guys have a million dollars burning a hole in your pocket. . . . .

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50008-50292.s

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

If any of you guys have a million dollars burning a hole in your pocket. . . . .

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c.../50008-50292.s

i bet that magie is trimmed

[parkerj33]

I think the one just ended on ebay was shilled a bit, but in the end it was priced likely appropriately. I agree with most that its a great card - a well-known error of the best-known old-timey set. The idea that its somewhat attainable (as opposed to wags/plank/doyle) make it a must have for me personally.....SO SELL ME ONE!

[Fred]

Originally Posted by chriskim

i bet that magie is trimmed

I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fred

I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.

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Not sure those top borders get an 8 today. But you can offer less than the 990k....

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[vthobby]

[QUOTE=Fred;2183167]I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.



Fred,

Based on your "bat ears" comments, would love to hear your opinion on these 2 cards. Trust me I already know the answer.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Lol. Just trying to stir the pot as usual . . . .

Ted hope you are staying healthy and well. I believe you are in Jersey as am I. Seems like every other person I know right now (including my wife) has tested positive. Be safe out there as they said on Hill Street Blues.

Hey Steve

I'm originally a "Jersey Boy" (Phil Rizzuto was my nearby neighbor in Hillside, NJ).

When I retired (over 20 years ago), I was smart enough to "go West young man"....and we crossed the Delaware River into Pennsylvania.
It's a friendlier State, and taxes are considerably lower than Joisey.

This part of Bucks County (PA) has had a low incidence of of Covid. In fact, the town just north of us has NONE.

Take care, Steve.


TED Z
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[skelly423]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

OK, as everyone is on the same page, I will be the contrarian (a.k.a. self-designated sh*tkicker).

Who is going to care one whit about Sherry Magie in 20 years?

Is the next generation of investment bankers and crypto millionaires going to go bonkers over him for some reason?

Is he about to get the ESPN Final Dance treatment?

I always appreciate the devil's advocate in these threads. I think the fact that we're sitting here in 2022 talking about a Sherry Magie card produced 113 years ago is evidence enough that it will still be relevant in 20 years.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

OK, as everyone is on the same page, I will be the contrarian (a.k.a. self-designated sh*tkicker).

Who is going to care one whit about Sherry Magie in 20 years?

Is the next generation of investment bankers and crypto millionaires going to go bonkers over him for some reason?

Is he about to get the ESPN Final Dance treatment?

It's all about the hype. Lot's of attention "now" probably means people will revere this card in the future.

It's easy to remember the T206 Wagner because of over 5 decades of hype. Yeah, I get it, it's Wagner. Who's Magee?

Just my personal thought - this card has been hyped to the point where it's a must have card in the (arguably) most collected turn of the century tobacco card offering. If people with cash want it because it's so hyped, they'll pay the price. If I had unlimited resources, I'd probably own one. But since I don't, I'll spend my cash on stuff that I like. Sometimes it just turns into one of those "cardboard measuring contest" things.

Just my opinion, as long as cardboard prices rise, this will also continue to rise. The more this becomes a deep pockets guy hobby, then you can rest assured that this card will probably rise in price faster than other cards in the set because of the hype.