T206 "Magie" Error Prices

[Fred]

Originally Posted by chriskim

i bet that magie is trimmed

I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by Fred

I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.

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Not sure those top borders get an 8 today. But you can offer less than the 990k....

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[vthobby]

[QUOTE=Fred;2183167]I'm not sure about trimmed, but perhaps a generous grade (8). The top corners are a little softer than the bottom corners but I don't see the bat ears at the corners that would be the tell tale sign of trimming. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if it was trimmed. Awesome centering and registration.



Fred,

Based on your "bat ears" comments, would love to hear your opinion on these 2 cards. Trust me I already know the answer.

[Fred]

Ewe... Just my humble opinion - without actually having it in hand to look at all angles it's tough to say. That said, the Paige has "that" look but would hate to make that judgement call on one picture.

I can't see anything wrong with the Phillip card because of the picture size and angle.

Just curious, what grades do the cards have?

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Fred

Ewe... Just my humble opinion - without actually having it in hand to look at all angles it's tough to say. That said, the Paige has "that" look but would hate to make that judgement call on one picture.

I can't see anything wrong with the Phillip card because of the picture size and angle.

Just curious, what grades do the cards have?

No problem. Both cards came from original owner collections. Cards that were undisturbed for 70 plus years. Thank god collections still exist to be found although quite rare as we all know. I've been fortunate to have been in a few great original finds since 1976 including these and some 1957-58 Topps Basketball that were found in their original vending machines (1 penny type). Those cards were most likely pulled from vending or wax packs and then put into the machines by the store owner way back when. Most of those had bat ears and were found in an attic that had vending machines from a long ago closed general store in Vermont. This was over 30 years ago so i digress.

The 1948s show "bat ears" a bunch and were graded by 3 companies (SGC, BVG and PSA) trying to play the "grading" game long ago. In over about 75 instances NONE were ever deemed altered. The Bowman Basketball averaged out at 8s across the collection. The Paige got a 1.5 due to the tape.

My only point (no pun intended) was to show you a couple cards that came from original owners that had never seen the light of day and thankfully never have seen a blade other than the one at Bowman and Leaf back in 1948.

I just feel that saying what you said about "bat ears" is a bit misleading and not true in all instances.

Thanks for letting me rant! lol

Peace, Mike

[Exhibitman]

There are three truly great sets at the heart of the pre-1980 hobby: T206, 1933 Goudey and 1952 Topps. They are all widely distributed and basically available (except for a few variations) and as a consequence are the most widely collected of all vintage sets. Given that circumstance, who Sherry Magee was as a player is far less important than who Sherry 'Magie' is in the T206 set. I'd say the desirability of the card is a pretty safe bet for the future. May not have explosive growth, but it isn't gonna go to zero unless way worse stuff happens than is likely.

[Bridwell]

I think that a legit card of Magie is a great investment. T206 is such a well-known set to collect, that won't change in 20 years. Now that PSA 8 Magie might be a bit suspect. The upper right edge narrows a bit, like somebody shaved a little off the edge to make the corner look better perhaps. Hard to say but for that price you'd want to be sure.

[brianp-beme]

We should not be rewarding incompetence. The portrait card with 'Magee' should be the more expensive version, because everything is accurate on it.

Brian (card not mine, and I tossed my copy of Magie because I just couldn't tolerate its flawed nature)

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Bridwell

I think that a legit card of Magie is a great investment. T206 is such a well-known set to collect, that won't change in 20 years. Now that PSA 8 Magie might be a bit suspect. The upper right edge narrows a bit, like somebody shaved a little off the edge to make the corner look better perhaps. Hard to say but for that price you'd want to be sure.

Just wondering . . . .What do you think the average age of a T206 collector is these days?

Not to get too heavy . . . but 55 years old plus three decades for most men is, shall we say, officially the post colleting era?