T206 "Magie" Error Prices

[Sean]

I don't understand this thread. Magee is not a popular player, and yet the Magie card is a big card one hundred ten years after it was printed. If we haven't lost interest in the card in 110 years, what is going to be different in the next 20 years?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Sean

I don't understand this thread. Magee is not a popular player, and yet the Magie card is a big card one hundred ten years after it was printed. If we haven't lost interest in the card in 110 years, what is going to be different in the next 20 years?

Winner!

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Winner!

For the same reason that Elvis Presley and Bob Hope memorabilia holds no appeal to anyone today under the age of 50.

And damm, that market for Louie Prima and Ernie Kovacs memorabilia is off the charts.

Times change; tastes change.

Amazing to me how little demand I see at auction for bands from the 1960s except a handful of them (Stones, Beatles, Who, Pink Floyd.)

(And please spare my the obligatory retort about how your 9 year old son or nephew can't collect enough Elvis memorabilia. Seriously.)

[RCMcKenzie]

Steve, not sure what series you collect, but a T206 Magie, is not a Rocco Colavito Topps card. It's why I referenced Rafer Alston, Luis Gonzalez, and Steve Finley. They are about my age and played well for my hometown teams. They are not hofers or part of important sets, so as the years go by, I expect their value to remain stagnant.

Steve Finley is like Corey Hart (apologies to our Canadian neighbors). T206 Magie is like a first release Scott Joplin record. Baseball will have to go away from our culture before baseball cards become worthless, especially cards from the T206 series.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Steve, not sure what series you collect, but a T206 Magie, is not a Rocco Colavito Topps card. It's why I referenced Rafer Alston, Luis Gonzalez, and Steve Finley. They are about my age and played well for my hometown teams. They are not hofers or part of important sets, so as the years go by, I expect their value to remain stagnant.

Steve Finley is like Corey Hart (apologies to our Canadian neighbors). T206 Magie is like a first release Scott Joplin record. Baseball will have to go away from our culture before baseball cards become worthless, especially cards from the T206 series.

I never argued that the card was going to zero, just only that I question if its a great investment at this point. The huge run up in the market the last couple of years, as far as I can tell, has been fueled by new blood (and wealthy new blood) trying to get culturally significant stuff that has broad appeal. Babe Ruth first and foremost. Jackie. Jordan. Mantle. Jeter. Clemente. Icons like that. Yes, the rising tide has lifted almost all boats. I just question if there is going to be steadily increasing demand for cards of people that, well, maybe 99.6% of true die hard baseball fans (who don't collect) have never heard of. I seriously doubt it, but time will tell. An error card is an anomaly. I get the appeal. I used to collect stamps. Error issues are huge. They are indisputably cool. I just think the interest level in things like the Magie error card is limited to a much smaller circle of collectors than you'd imagine from reading this board.

Obviously just my opinion and I'm wrong as much as the next guy. I thought Amazon at $35 was overpriced.

[sportscardpete]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

I never argued that the card was going to zero, just only that I question if its a great investment at this point. The huge run up in the market the last couple of years, as far as I can tell, has been fueled by new blood (and wealthy new blood) trying to get culturally significant stuff that has broad appeal. Babe Ruth first and foremost. Jackie. Jordan. Mantle. Jeter. Clemente. Icons like that. Yes, the rising tide has lifted almost all boats. I just question if there is going to be steadily increasing demand for cards of people that, well, maybe 99.6% of true die hard baseball fans (who don't collect) have never heard of. I seriously doubt it, but time will tell. An error card is an anomaly. I get the appeal. I used to collect stamps. Error issues are huge. I just think the interest level in things like the Magie error card is limited to a much smaller circle of people than you'd imagine from reading this board.

For sure- once all the people who grew up watching him play die off I think the card will lose a ton of cultural relevance.

[Casey2296]

I would love to add a Magie to my Piedmont portrait run, there's only 250 of them, that makes the hunt fun. What do I care what it's worth when I die, that's my kids problem.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

for sure- once all the people who grew up watching him play die off i think the card will lose a ton of cultural relevance.

+1000.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

For sure- once all the people who grew up watching him play die off I think the card will lose a ton of cultural relevance.

Pete,

I still remember that 1910 season where he won the batting title. My dad got so mad after buying me that season's pass when I promptly skipped all of 11th grade to see the games! To be fair I looked older than I was so I did not stand out.

Lived at 2601 North Broad Street, Philadelphia PA so the park was a stone's throw away. Still get mail forwarded from that address inexplicably?

Weird!

I hope I'm not the only one left? Sherry toast to Mr. Magee......or is it Magie?

Damn!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by sportscardpete

For sure- once all the people who grew up watching him play die off I think the card will lose a ton of cultural relevance.

Babe Ruth died when I was 11 months old. I’m not feeling well today. Time to sell your Ruth cards before the market plummets.

[FrozenInferno]

Originally Posted by Sean

I don't understand this thread. Magee is not a popular player, and yet the Magie card is a big card one hundred ten years after it was printed. If we haven't lost interest in the card in 110 years, what is going to be different in the next 20 years?

Generations will be different. The kids of today might be more interested in collecting NFT’s in 20 years than “ancient” cardboard. The digital age is changing the world faster now than ever before. The love of these cards has lasted over 100 years so far but could also change in a relative heartbeat.

[parkplace33]

While I believe it holds value, not sure of it as an investment piece. Most likely only T206 set collectors will be interested, so you have already limited part of the collecting market.

[steve B]

There are also collectors that go for the "best" cards in a set, "best" being defined as the most expensive.


What could be interesting, if as some have hinted that the hobby has changed to being about commodity and not the cards....

In a graded case, the correct card is less common... So harder to find for a registry set going on just the numbers.

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by parkplace33

While I believe it holds value, not sure of it as an investment piece. Most likely only T206 set collectors will be interested, so you have already limited part of the collecting market.

Yes but I think this undersells the number of true T206 collectors. This message board is just a small slice of the prewar card collecting population. There are likely tens of thousands of people scattered throughout the country who collect prewar baseball cards, T206 especially and have no idea Net54 exists. Their level of dedication and budgets will vary. But there is an appetite for these cards. Look no further than a typical day on ebay with auctions ending and Piedmont/SweetCap commons getting bid up to $70-90 bucks a piece. Off back Ty Cobbs brining mid 5 figures regularly the auction houses.

The Magie is a rare card. PSA has graded 135 total, SGC 79. Assuming a few crossovers in that total, and maybe a small handful buried away raw in cigar boxes somewhere waiting to be discovered, you are talking about a total of less than 250 copies of this card that exist in the world. There are more than 250 people out there who would want to own this card because they want a complete T206 set. If the value of the card goes down, it is likely because of other major things happening in the world causing the price of every non-essential good/service to go down

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

Yes but I think this undersells the number of true T206 collectors. This message board is just a small slice of the prewar card collecting population. There are likely tens of thousands of people scattered throughout the country who collect prewar baseball cards, T206 especially and have no idea Net54 exists. Their level of dedication and budgets will vary. But there is an appetite for these cards. Look no further than a typical day on ebay with auctions ending and Piedmont/SweetCap commons getting bid up to $70-90 bucks a piece. Off back Ty Cobbs brining mid 5 figures regularly the auction houses.

The Magie is a rare card. PSA has graded 135 total, SGC 79. Assuming a few crossovers in that total, and maybe a small handful buried away raw in cigar boxes somewhere waiting to be discovered, you are talking about a total of less than 250 copies of this card that exist in the world. There are more than 250 people out there who would want to own this card because they want a complete T206 set. If the value of the card goes down, it is likely because of other major things happening in the world causing the price of every non-essential good/service to go down

There are also PLENTY of folks that do not collect the T206 series as a set and just want a rare card like this! Like me!

Been hearing about it all my collecting life since 1976 and now I proudly own one. (Thanks to a net54 seller). I feel lucky.

It's not going down! If it does, I'll buy more! lol

Mike