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[Leon]

Personally I* think changing the name of the Indians is a crock of sh!@. There is no way that is offensive to anyone unless they are looking to be offended. Always the victim, should be the motto for 2020.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Leon

Personally I* think changing the name of the Indians is a crock of sh!@. There is no way that is offensive to anyone unless they are looking to be offended. Always the victim, should be the motto for 2020.

And yet 40+ years ago teams began changing their team name from Indians to something else because no way that was offensive to anyone? Just seemed like something to do?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

And yet 40+ years ago teams began changing their team name from Indians to something else because no way that was offensive to anyone? Just seemed like something to do?

If I get called an American should I be offended? Sorry, it won't ever fly with me. If everyone would just get a job, as Judge Judy (my hero) says, all would be good. Instead you have everyone getting offended at anything because they have been taught to play the victim card. I think I should be offended that anyone disagrees with me >....

Or if not offended by that just give me a few minutes to find something else to be offended by. Crock of crap if you ask me.

[Throttlesteer]

There's a certain amount of power to be had if you can consistently move the goal posts. Societies always think they've finally go things figured out, only to have later generations gasp in abhorrence to their barbaric perspectives.

Fifty years from now, they'll be burning our cards in a pile due to these idols being womanizers, bigots', communists, capitalists, etc...

Hide your Ruths, hide your Hornsbys, hide your Cobbs.....they're coming for you!!!!!!!!

[packs]

Originally Posted by Leon

Personally I* think changing the name of the Indians is a crock of sh!@. There is no way that is offensive to anyone unless they are looking to be offended. Always the victim, should be the motto for 2020.

If you read the statement from the team it will tell you exactly why the change was made and what the opinions of the stakeholders were:

“Hearing firsthand the stories and experiences of Native American people, we gained a deep understanding of how tribal communities feel about the team name and the detrimental effects it has on them,” team owner Paul Dolan said in a statement. “While Indians will always be a part of our history, it is time to move forward and work to unify our stakeholders and fans through a new name.”

This was the response from the National Congress of American Indians:

“Today’s announcement represents a monumental step forward in Indian Country’s decades-long effort to educate America about what respect for tribal nations, cultures, and communities entails, and how sports mascots like the ‘Indians’ prevent our fellow Americans from understanding and valuing who Native people are today, what makes us unique, and the many contributions we make to this country,”

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by packs

If you read the statement from the team it will tell you exactly why the change was made and what the opinions of the stakeholders were:

“Hearing firsthand the stories and experiences of Native American people, we gained a deep understanding of how tribal communities feel about the team name and the detrimental effects it has on them,” team owner Paul Dolan said in a statement. “While Indians will always be a part of our history, it is time to move forward and work to unify our stakeholders and fans through a new name.”

This was the response from the National Congress of American Indians:

“Today’s announcement represents a monumental step forward in Indian Country’s decades-long effort to educate America about what respect for tribal nations, cultures, and communities entails, and how sports mascots like the ‘Indians’ prevent our fellow Americans from understanding and valuing who Native people are today, what makes us unique, and the many contributions we make to this country,”

Will the National Congress of American Indians be changing their name?

After all, Indians are from India.

[packs]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Will the National Congress of American Indians be changing their name?

After all, Indians are from India.

That idea is not incorrect. Historically speaking, Columbus thought he was in India when he discovered what are now known as Native Americans. But it's really not an argument that is necessary to oppose.

If your name is Ed and I insist on calling you Dave, won't it rub you the wrong way?

[Tripredacus]

Originally Posted by packs

That idea is not incorrect. Historically speaking, Columbus thought he was in India when he discovered what are now known as Native Americans. But it's really not an argument that is necessary to oppose.

If your name is Ed and I insist on calling you Dave, won't it rub you the wrong way?

And then name a baseball team the Daves.

Would people be offended if they renamed them the Cleveland Buckeyes?

[egri]

Originally Posted by Tripredacus

And then name a baseball team the Daves.

Would people be offended if they renamed them the Cleveland Buckeyes?

They'd probably have to sort it out with the Ohio State Buckeyes.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Will the National Congress of American Indians be changing their name?

After all, Indians are from India.

You completely missed the point of the statement.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by Tabe

You completely missed the point of the statement.

I don't need to get points here. I have a 23 year old adopted son who is Kiowa. He has a good relationship with his biological family and we talk often. I get the points from the source.