Poll: response to recent PWCC revelations

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Haha

No need to dumb anything down for me.

Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Topps-...kAAOSwQ8xc9owy

You either plug your nose and bid or give up on your collection.

I would bid.

Don't worry, they will preserve another one.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Don't worry, they will preserve another one.

Pop 1 out of 534 submitted.

254,471 cards submitted from this set.

Lots of dedicated collectors.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Pop 1 out of 534 submitted.

254,471 cards submitted from this set.

Lots of dedicated collectors.

Way out of my league. There is no way I can afford to pay over $6300 for a $10 card.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Way out of my league. There is no way I can afford to pay over $6300 for a $10 card.

I have never spent this much on a card.

People have to understand there are so many dedicated collectors to various sets. When you look at the registry for this set Charles Merkel is number one. Maybe he will pass. At this time there are twenty complete sets. Perhaps a few pass but someone will step up to the plate. At last check there were 14 bidders and 33 watchers so it is definitely attracting attention.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

I have never spent this much on a card.

People have to understand there are so many dedicated collectors to various sets. When you look at the registry for this set Charles Merkel is number one. Maybe he will pass. At this time there are twenty complete sets. Perhaps a few pass but someone will step up to the plate. At last check there were 14 bidders and 33 watchers so it is definitely attracting attention.

I completely understand that BLEEPING registry. I might know a guy that talks a lot of crap but secretly has a popular complete set that is around #4 last time he checked. He still wouldn't buy from PWCC though.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I completely understand that BLEEPING registry. I might know a guy that talks a lot of crap but secretly has a popular complete set that is around #4 last time he checked. He still wouldn't buy from PWCC though.

Cool.

Some will and some won't. Many wouldn't before so time will tell how many who currently will won't. I don't think many will be able to say no.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Pop 1 out of 534 submitted.

254,471 cards submitted from this set.

Lots of dedicated collectors.

And that 10 is so much nicer than the much more affordable 9 because? Oh, right, I forgot. PSA graded it and PSA has been shown to be infallible. And the 10 is being sold by PWCC, a notoriously honest seller. LOL, whatever. To each his own.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

And that 10 is so much nicer than the much more affordable 9 because? Oh, right, I forgot. PSA graded it and PSA has been shown to be infallible. And the 10 is being sold by PWCC, a notoriously honest seller. LOL, whatever. To each his own.

People to choose to spend their money on different shit. Charles Merkel is loaded. If you look at his set it is filled with 10's.

I choose to spend money on wrestling cards. Something most don't. My wife likes ridiculously expensive shoes and purses. Many would argue both are dumb ways to spend your money but to each their own.

Who knows if he is even bidding but judging by the fact there are now 15 bidders this card isn't flying under the radar that is for sure.

[CobbSpikedMe]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

Who knows if he is even bidding but judging by the fact there are now 15 bidders this card isn't flying under the radar that is for sure.

So there are 15 guys that have ridiculous money to spend on cards don't know about this scandal yet? Shocking. I'm sure they have nothing better to do than read a message board about baseball cards like us. Out of all the collectors we're talking about 15 here with big wallets who are obviously all about the flip anyway. Not surprised the bidding is so high. Not at all.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by Dpeck100

People to choose to spend their money on different shit. Charles Merkel is loaded. If you look at his set it is filled with 10's.

I choose to spend money on wrestling cards. Something most don't. My wife likes ridiculously expensive shoes and purses. Many would argue both are dumb ways to spend your money but to each their own.

Who knows if he is even bidding but judging by the fact there are now 15 bidders this card isn't flying under the radar that is for sure.

One word: Registry. I cannot lie -- that was a brilliant idea. PSA creates a market for cards that it apparently cannot even grade accurately, at least based on the examples shown here, and then justifiably relies on the egos of people who: A) have much more money than sense; and B) buy the flip, not the card. Ingenious. I wish I had thought of that because it is literally the perfect scam. People feel good about falling for it and actually get recognized by PSA for doing so. How much better could it possibly get? When I see an otherwise $10 card going for 4 or 5 figures because there is a dick-measuring contest going on, it always makes me laugh. Again, whatever. If you have stupid money, I guess you are entitled to be stupid.

[Dpeck100]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

One word: Registry. I cannot lie -- that was a brilliant idea. PSA creates a market for cards that it apparently cannot even grade accurately, at least based on the examples shown here, and then justifiably relies on the egos of people who: A) have much more money than sense; and B) buy the flip, not the card. Ingenious. I wish I had thought of that because it is literally the perfect scam. People feel good about falling for it and actually get recognized by PSA for doing so. How much better could it possibly get? When I see an otherwise $10 card going for 4 or 5 figures because there is a dick-measuring contest going on, it always makes me laugh. Again, whatever. If you have stupid money, I guess you are entitled to be stupid.

The registry was brilliant. I have paid 2k for a $2 card. Haha

[perezfan]

That is one FUGLY piece of cardboard for the money. You could own both of their game-used uniforms for 1/4 the price.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

One word: Registry. I cannot lie -- that was a brilliant idea. PSA creates a market for cards that it apparently cannot even grade accurately, at least based on the examples shown here, and then justifiably relies on the egos of people who: A) have much more money than sense; and B) buy the flip, not the card. Ingenious. I wish I had thought of that because it is literally the perfect scam. People feel good about falling for it and actually get recognized by PSA for doing so. How much better could it possibly get? When I see an otherwise $10 card going for 4 or 5 figures because there is a dick-measuring contest going on, it always makes me laugh. Again, whatever. If you have stupid money, I guess you are entitled to be stupid.

It was transformative in terms of elevating worthless commons into high priced commodities as guys built their 50s sets. If I recall correctly the first PSA 8 Wehmeier from 52 Topps went for 25K or more. But more generally PSA well understood the mindset of many of its wealthy collectors.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

One word: Registry. I cannot lie -- that was a brilliant idea. PSA creates a market for cards that it apparently cannot even grade accurately, at least based on the examples shown here, and then justifiably relies on the egos of people who: A) have much more money than sense; and B) buy the flip, not the card. Ingenious. I wish I had thought of that because it is literally the perfect scam. People feel good about falling for it and actually get recognized by PSA for doing so. How much better could it possibly get? When I see an otherwise $10 card going for 4 or 5 figures because there is a dick-measuring contest going on, it always makes me laugh. Again, whatever. If you have stupid money, I guess you are entitled to be stupid.

Given how wildly popular the registry is, isn't it in PSA's advantage to keep as many high grade cards in circulation as possible? And wouldn't they want to turn a blind eye to some of these restorations so that more collectors can get involved in registry collecting?

And every business wants to have happy customers who are good for repeat business. So who is happier- the guy whose cards get rejected for possible tampering, or the guy who consistently receives 8's, 9's, and 10's?

Just saying.