Its not just moser/pwcc...more trimmers exposed

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

They never have really taken on PSA, in their marketing have they?

I love SGC and use them for any PC card I am getting graded. That said it is like they want to fail. Everything but their quality of grading absolutely sucks.

They don't need to take on PSA, they just need to not suck at everything but grading. They have an unbelievable opportunity now that I hope they don't piss away. Maybe they hate money.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I love SGC and use them for any PC card I am getting graded. That said it is like they want to fail. Everything but their quality of grading absolutely sucks.

They don't need to take on PSA, they just need to not suck at everything but grading. They have an unbelievable opportunity now that I hope they don't piss away. Maybe they hate money.

The SGC website home page still promises good things to come, but starts with a video about autograph authentication, which - as they say on the homepage as well - they stopped doing on April 1 after their autograph authentication business was obliterated by a forgery ring in Girard, OH. (PSA would be similarly wise to give up card grading until they come up with a better mouse trap.)

I used to love SGC, and had my entire first T206 set encapsulated by SGC. But all the folks that made SGC so great are now at REA. I have given up on them.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

The SGC website home page still promises good things to come, but starts with a video about autograph authentication, which - as they say on the homepage as well - they stopped doing on April 1 after their autograph authentication took an absolute onslaught from a forgery ring in Girard, OH. (PSA would be similarly wise to give up card grading until they come up with a better mouse trap.)

I used to love SGC, and had my entire first T206 set encapsulated by SGC. But all the folks that made SGC so great are now at REA. I have given up on them.

Perhaps we can help make SGC GREAT AGAIN!!!!! MSGA!!!!!!!

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Perhaps we can help make SGC GREAT AGAIN!!!!! MSGA!!!!!!!

+1

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

The SGC website home page still promises good things to come, but starts with a video about autograph authentication, which - as they say on the homepage as well - they stopped doing on April 1 after their autograph authentication business was obliterated by a forgery ring in Girard, OH. (PSA would be similarly wise to give up card grading until they come up with a better mouse trap.)

I used to love SGC, and had my entire first T206 set encapsulated by SGC. But all the folks that made SGC so great are now at REA. I have given up on them.

I remember when you were their biggest fan, we used to have some discussions about that. Very interesting. Have their graders left as well or just administrative people?

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I remember when you were their biggest fan, we used to have some discussions about that. Very interesting. Have their graders left as well or just administrative people?

When Senior Grader Rob Luce left in 2016 to follow Brian Dwyer to REA, I knew it wasn't a good move for SGC. Luce used to travel to the shows, and you could sit down with him and ask how he graded cards, and what he thought of your cards before you submitted them. It was that first-class customer service -- and much more consistent and accurate grading -- that made me their biggest fan.

That they somehow are surviving despite their best efforts to kill themselves is more a testament to the outrageous waiting times for PSA grading than support for their current business model.

[The Nasty Nati]

It's crazy that they are even getting away with recoloring. I mean I can understand how trimming can get past the PSA graders but recoloring the back of a high dollar t206 card. How do you miss that?

See Demmitt post:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2204

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

It's crazy that they are even getting away with recoloring. I mean I can understand how trimming can get past the PSA graders but recoloring the back of a high dollar t206 card. How do you miss that?

See Demmitt post:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=2204

Conventional wisdom was always a blacklight would pick that up. I have no idea what to think.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I have no idea what to think.

Ummm...yes, you do. You just don't want to admit it.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Conventional wisdom was always a blacklight would pick that up. I have no idea what to think.

Buy special hobby paint that doesn’t have optical brighteners added to it?