Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

[egbeachley]

Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures. Too bad we can’t just soak the added ink off the cards to get them back to prior condition as that would be “Altering” them. Although that seems a bit backwards to me.

[David Bender]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures.

This.

[swarmee]

Not sure we're losing that many great cards; these are mostly beaters that are being forged.

[iowadoc77]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Not sure we're losing that many great cards; these are mostly beaters that are being forged.

This is where I was at first, but there are still a finite number of these cards. It’s a decently big finite number but still sucks to see them destroyed

And a big +1 to Jeff’s comments about the false sense of security with the slabs and how we lose our minds when we find something we want really bad.

[Republicaninmass]

How many did they try and fail?

[SAllen2556]

Boy, I thought everyone who collects sports stuff, especially autographs would have read "Operation Bullpen". That book is the "Scared Straight" book for anyone who ever considered collecting an autograph. This current wave of fraud would not surprise anyone who ever read that book.

Secondly, I wonder if law enforcement doesn't care because of the nature of the hobby. Rich guys paying thousands of dollars for autographs of people that 99% of the public never even heard of. Who wants to spend precious resources defending these guys? If they can afford to spend the money, then they can afford to deal with the risk. Seems like it's very important that this hobby police itself. So my sincere thanks to all who have exposed this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Boy, I thought everyone who collects sports stuff, especially autographs would have read "Operation Bullpen". That book is the "Scared Straight" book for anyone who ever considered collecting an autograph. This current wave of fraud would not surprise anyone who ever read that book.

Yep. As the great quotation goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures.

That's what I thought. Also what I think about trimming, etc.

[biggsdaddycool]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures. Too bad we can’t just soak the added ink off the cards to get them back to prior condition as that would be “Altering” them. Although that seems a bit backwards to me.

+1


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[iwantitiwinit]

[QUOTE=egbeachley;1831982]Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures.

I totally agree and that's one of the reasons I collect the Magee cards, I feel as if many have been lost to card doctors trying to change the Magee to Magie. Relative to the autograph forging I'm sorry to say I believe this is just scratching the surface as many have already mentioned. Personally, I wouldn't trust any autograph nor would I collect any card that had been altered in anyway. I would guess that many backstamp cards have been "created" recently though they don't carry anywhere near the premium that the t206 auto cards do.

It's all a sad commentary on the state of some aspects of the hobby. I would think this has ruined the fun of things for many of us as those holding certified t206 auto's are questioning the validity of their signed cards. Not knowing is often worse than knowing. I feel for you. Hope the perpetrators get more than what they deserve.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

Secondary to the fraud is the fact that we all losing all these great 100-year old cards to fake signatures. Too bad we can’t just soak the added ink off the cards to get them back to prior condition as that would be “Altering” them. Although that seems a bit backwards to me.

Here's how a real TPG handles a nice item that's got a problem.





Yes, that's mine. As far as I know it's the first of that foreign entry that's been given a certificate. I have a couple others, and it's pretty rare so the issues don't bother me much.