Fake Signed T206 Cards (Too Many to List in the Title, See First Post for List)

[Orioles1954]

My first thought is how dumb can a forger be? Why would he/they buy easily trackable cards rather than picking them up at a regional show. Perhaps they have changed their methods?

[jchcollins]

The rage of it aside, this whole type of thing is fascinating to me. Put it in the back of the book in a chapter after the Mastro Wagner story. What neat little vehicles for fraud these little T-206's have turned out to be a century on...

[theshleps]

If the seller is still selling on ebay it would be easy to buy something from him and trace the paypal payment if his name isn't already known

[jad22]

Originally Posted by theshleps

If the seller is still selling on ebay it would be easy to buy something from him and trace the paypal payment if his name isn't already known

It appears some people know the name. Is it a member of this site?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jad22

It appears some people know the name. Is it a member of this site?

The only name I have isn't a member according to records checked. That doesn't mean they aren't here, they can crawl under the fence fairly easily. Caveat Emptor...

[CrackaJackKid]

I’m guessing it’s Battlefield....

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by theshleps

If the seller is still selling on ebay it would be easy to buy something from him and trace the paypal payment if his name isn't already known

I had the same thought. The eBay ID that was posted last night did not have any items for sale and in scrolling through feedback I only saw buy side reviews.

[daves_resale_shop]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

I had the same thought. The eBay ID that was posted last night did not have any items for sale and in scrolling through feedback I only saw buy side reviews.

what was the ebay id?

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

I had the same thought. The eBay ID that was posted last night did not have any items for sale and in scrolling through feedback I only saw buy side reviews.

I saw that too. Nothing currently for sale .

I purchased a Fred Snodgrass personalized photo, a Chief Meyers note written on an index card, and a Fred Parent cut from the same seller a couple years ago. They looked real from the exemplars I studied, but who knows. If this is the forger, maybe these were real ones that he used to make his fakes? Or maybe they were his practice ones that came out looking good.

I did ask him about the provenance. He told me the AH he won them from in a large lot from an original collection that was collected TTM in the 1960's. I have to dig them out but I believe they are personalized to Mike and Tom (Father and son). I remember he had others for sale as well. A couple were Larry Doyle photos taken in Sarnac Lake, NY when he was recuperating from tuberculosis.

[Shoeless Moe]

Would one of you grow some balls and post the ID, or PM me and I'll do it.

[jad22]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Would one of you grow some balls and post the ID, or PM me and I'll do it.

This is absurd. It should be posted for all to see.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Would one of you grow some balls and post the ID, or PM me and I'll do it.

Maybe if folks weren't so offensive, such as this post of yours, they would. But I don't blame the original seller whatsoever for not wanting to get into this. And I am not going to be bullied into doing anything before I am ready to. It will all come out. And nice scrambling orf your name. But we got that fixed for ya. Also, i will be going back and putting full names by everyone's ID who wants to spout off. No worries about any one saying anything but if you do your name needs to be by your post, per the rules.
ps...I have made the name known to a few people working on this but just don't want to say publicly quite yet.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

My first thought is how dumb can a forger be? Why would he/they buy easily trackable cards rather than picking them up at a regional show. Perhaps they have changed their methods?

Yup, but keep in mind it still took 3-4 years for anybody to catch up with them.

I keep on reading these pronouncements about how the TPA's would have been able to catch this if they had just spent 10 minutes more on the autographs.

It actually took the right domino to fall for these to actually get found out. These have been fooling experienced collectors for years it looks like.