Candiman Auctions Explained

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

what was the market price for that Ruth..

You know what they say

" if you pay light..the package is going to feel light "

WTF does this even mean? I won an auction, so I can assure you I didn’t “pay light.” I’ve never “paid light” on any card I own. Are you suggesting I somehow deserved to get scammed?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

WTF does this even mean? I won an auction, so I can assure you I didn’t “pay light.” I’ve never “paid light” on any card I own. Are you suggesting I somehow deserved to get scammed?

A friend of mine bought a 52T Mantle PSA 4 a few years back and a 57T Mantle PSA 5 showed up in the package. The weight was right, anyhow.

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A friend of mine bought a 52T Mantle PSA 4 a few years back and a 57T Mantle PSA 5 showed up in the package. The weight was right, anyhow.

Well, per Jake’s logic, depending on the price he paid, perhaps he was only due a 57 Mantle.

Per my logic, that’s awful. It feels like such a punch in the gut when the package doesn’t contain what you bought. And the fact that a card was sent, with tracking, makes it much harder to build your case as eBay and PayPal are pretty binary when it comes to believing that a tracking number proves the seller’s case.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Well, per Jake’s logic, depending on the price he paid, perhaps he was only due a 57 Mantle.

Per my logic, that’s awful. It feels like such a punch in the gut when the package doesn’t contain what you bought. And the fact that a card was sent, with tracking, makes it much harder to build your case as eBay and PayPal are pretty binary when it comes to believing that a tracking number proves the seller’s case.

Right, for example, if you pay $1000 for a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle at an 'auction' won this month and won ' the card....i would consider that paying light and expecting to get a light package. (getting a brick in the mail or getting nothing is still getting a light package...its a term of art) Its not like almost everyone thinks this auction will be full of feeling light packages of people that paid light....its not a shocker


I think 57 mantles weigh less than 52 mantles....less cardboard

If pay light you are going to get something that feels light in the mail

Sell the holder not the card..

[Republicaninmass]

I don't believe the wouldn't ship, that wasn't battlesfields MO

I received tracking on my lot from another auction house which was never delivered. A label was printed, but nothing was ever dropped at the Post office.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Right, for example, if you pay $1000 for a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle at an 'auction' won this month and won ' the card....i would consider that paying light and expecting to get a light package. (getting a brick in the mail or getting nothing is still getting a light package...

A 52T Mantle is a $15-20,000 card in PSA 3. I don't even know mechanicalman at all, but did you really think he was talking about paying five cents on the dollar when he got ripped off on a Ruth card for which he paid $4,500?

What about his post even gave any kind of an indication that he was talking about a price that was so obviously out of whack as to scream scam?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

A 52T Mantle is a $15-20,000 card in PSA 3. I don't even know mechanicalman at all, but did you really think he was talking about paying five cents on the dollar when he got ripped off on a Ruth card for which he paid $4,500?

What about his post even gave any kind of an indication that he was talking about a price that was so obviously out of whack as to scream scam?

giving an example..plus there are many people people on this thread that did pay cents on the dollars on cards that were later 'ripped' off.....

plus we werent told exactly which ruth card.....so i said in general if you pay light you are going to get a light package... If he wanted to elaborate more what exactly what card was bought and where etc thats fine as well but nothing more was said....what makes you think he didnt get an extremely extremely good deal...you are accusing me to jumping to conclusions while you are also jumping to conclusions as you have no idea what the details of the sale is.....but again i was only talking generally..

but remember if you pay light you are going to get something light in the mail....which is my point of what was bought at the AH

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

giving an example..plus there are many people people on this thread that did pay cents on the dollars on cards that were later 'ripped' off.....

plus we werent told exactly which ruth card.....so i said in general if you pay light you are going to get a light package... If he wanted to elaborate more what exactly what card was bought and where etc thats fine as well but nothing more was said....what makes you think he didnt get an extremely extremely good deal...you are accusing me to jumping to conclusions while you are also jumping to conclusions as you have no idea what the details of the sale is.....but again i was only talking generally..

but remember if you pay light you are going to get something light in the mail....which is my point of what was bought at the AH

What about someone who paid market price for a 1952 Mantle rookie and got shipped a 1959 Don Mossi PSA 5? That would still be the same hard case to prove with Ebay/PayPal since tracking showed that the seller delivered a package and recieved a package. Like the same thing that happened in my instance. Someone paid for my cards and wanted to return them and shipped back empty slabs. If I hadn't opened them up in front of a postal employee, I would be out the cards AND the money, because Ebay/PayPal would have automatically sided with the buyer because he/she had tracking. No one deserves to be ripped off.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

A friend of mine bought a 52T Mantle PSA 4 a few years back and a 57T Mantle PSA 5 showed up in the package. The weight was right, anyhow.

Holy Shit!! That's horrible Peter!! Did the problem ever get resolved?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Holy Shit!! That's horrible Peter!! Did the problem ever get resolved?

Yeah, it took time and quite a bit of effort though, and some luck. He got his money back, and he got to keep the 57T lol.