$OLD pet peeve

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

+1
+1 again. I bought my house for a good price so I should sell it to you today for a bargain because I paid a pittance for it.

Now replace "house" with "card".

If everyone knows what you paid for it, it can be harder to get what you want for it. You need to realize that a house is not a card and that is a very bad analogy.

A card can be 1 of 1. Very specific in a thin collector market. There may only be a dozen people on the planet that want the card. The card may only sell 5 times in a hundred year period(if that) depending on what it is. It may take a very long time to find that person. That ask price and that buy price are hugely important to the sellers ability to get the desired asking price in a market like that on 1 of 1s, errors, oddities, and obscure issues.

[rainier2004]

I guess what I don't understand is how it upsets people so much, almost like this entitled attitude with the information. There have been tons of reasons why this practice is done and some members here seem to gloss over those. I do to not possibly piss off my buyer, I don't even ask I just do it...I am a guy, it's easier that way. No one really owes anyone else an explanation...which brings me back to my point mentioned above.

Just yesterday I reach out to a member looking for a specific card, he inquires, inquires more and wants a price. I write a nice 2 paragraph description to go along with the scans of the graded card and highlight recent auction activity and my price...crickets. I don't even get back a "no thank you" or even an "up yours"...email just goes deaf.

The basic communication skills that lack in this hobby are astounding, treating someone with common courtesy seems to be becoming the exception and bravery behind a keyboard is always dramatic so removing a price, which isn't any of my business to begin with, seems like small potatoes.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

i guess what i don't understand is how it upsets people so much, almost like this entitled attitude with the information.

+10000000000000000

[Snapolit1]

99.9% of the purchases and sales we do, whether on eBay, REA, Heritage, LOTG are accessible on the Internet going forward. Don't understand why transactions done on BST have to be cloaked in secrecy. I'm not losing sleep over it, but don't understand the other side either.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

"it's not my job to educate anybody!"

Lol

[drmondobueno]

I like tacos.

What I put in em and on em is my business. What I pay for em is nobody's business, especially the ex.

[Rich Falvo]

I agree that a completed sale price is really no one's business except for the buyer and seller, but as a newer collector of older cards, I love it when the asking price is left in the thread because I search the archives for past sales. That helps me set realistic starting prices when I want to sell my own stuff.

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

I like tacos.

What I put in em and on em is my business. What I pay for em is nobody's business, especially the ex.

Yes, but if you've previously advertised your taco for the world to see, and in fact wanted as many people as possible to view, consider and wish to purchase your taco... The minute you get what you want, the taco is now off limits?? So its "Please!!! Look at my taco!!" "I'll tell you anything you want to know about my taco!!" " but the minute it sells, no one is longer needed, hence, my taco is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!"

Oh! but next time I have another taco I want to sell... Please view and consider!!!!!

I went off the rails with this, and its all in jest. 😁

[frankbmd]

Rethinking this question, I cannot think of a logical reason for removing the asking or sales price when I delete the scan and the text of the listing.

The last one I deleted was listed for $83 and sold for $83.

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

Yes, but if you've previously advertised your taco for the world to see, and in fact wanted as many people as possible to view, consider and wish to purchase your taco... The minute you get what you want, the taco is now off limits?? So its "Please!!! Look at my taco!!" "I'll tell you anything you want to know about my taco!!" " but the minute it sells, no one is longer needed, hence, my taco is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!!"

Oh! but next time I have another taco I want to sell... Please view and consider!!!!!

I went off the rails with this, and its all in jest. 😁

Yup. What I pay is my own business. What you pay should be captured by prosperity. This ain't no democracy. Out and out self-serving capitalism, boys!🤑🇺🇸

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

If everyone knows what you paid for it, it can be harder to get what you want for it. You need to realize that a house is not a card and that is a very bad analogy.

A card can be 1 of 1. Very specific in a thin collector market. There may only be a dozen people on the planet that want the card. The card may only sell 5 times in a hundred year period(if that) depending on what it is. It may take a very long time to find that person. That ask price and that buy price are hugely important to the sellers ability to get the desired asking price in a market like that on 1 of 1s, errors, oddities, and obscure issues.

Take paragraph 2, and replace "card" with "house".

Oh you're right, it's a very bad analogy . We should be comparing houses to a commodity like coffee beans, not baseball cards, because all houses are the same, unlike baseball cards.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Take paragraph 2, and replace "card" with "house".

Oh you're right, it's a very bad analogy . We should be comparing houses to a commodity like coffee beans, not baseball cards, because all houses are the same, unlike baseball cards.

Just look at all the info out there now regarding sold prices on houses accessible to the public. Stopped lots of flippers in their tracks. Also, led to people changing addresses on their houses and condos. Unit 1 for unit A, 3rd street to Third St...etc

[PhillipAbbott79]

Yes. The housing market works nothing like the card market but that is way off of the point I was attempting to make, along with your analogy.

My argument only, was that there is more potential room to make profit if buyers don't know what I paid for an item. It is also has the chance of turning some buyers off because they don't know what a fair price would be.

You only want to know what 'fair' is so you don't get ripped off. You don't want to pay more than you have to, but you are forgetting that you don't have to pay anything if you don't want to.

If you purchase with what you think it is worth to you, regardless of knowing what it is worth to someone else, you will never get ripped off. You then don't need to know what other people thought it was worth, because you got it for what you thought it was worth to you.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

yes confucius good post and pretty much useless for this conversation

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Stampsfan

Take paragraph 2, and replace "card" with "house".

Oh you're right, it's a very bad analogy . We should be comparing houses to a commodity like coffee beans, not baseball cards, because all houses are the same, unlike baseball cards.

It actually is a bad analogy because house sales are public record. Not because they couldn't be considered 1 or 1 items as well (which they could).