$OLD pet peeve

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I've got some crazy ideas.

1. If you think prices should be left up, then when you sell , leave yours up.

2. If you are insulted by lowball offers, you probably should find another business. Really how taxing is it to say "no thanks?"

3. If a seller is asking a museum price for something and it gets you worked up, maybe you should consider another hobby. Really, how hard is it to NOT buy something?

4. If someone is doing business in a manner you don't approve, don't do business with them. Really. No, REALLY.

5. In any of the scenarios above, resorting to calling people out, sending angry PMs, actually insulting them, or otherwise disrupting the peace of the universe is ludicrous. I don't have time to get worked up over everything I disagree with ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO AFFECT ME!

Are these little pieces of cardboard (or leather or flannel or felt or silk etc...) really worth the level of aggravation some of you guys put yourselves through? If it's your hobby, isn't a hobby intended to be a relaxing enjoyable pastime? If it's your business, do you really become more successful the angrier you get? This is absolutely NOT directed at the OP, but rather at all the curmudgeons and hotheads in general who are always right.

I recently had a negotiation with a board member whose name I won't reveal without permission. We have done business before and I like him. In this latest negotiation he tried to "educate" me as to the value of my card. The two seconds it took to read the information were pretty painless so I merely responded with my absolute best price. It didn't work out. He didn't call me an asshole, I didn't call him a degenerate, and we'll probably do business again. I guess it's more fun to fly off the handle and act like there's some kind of moral high ground in a negotiation over a baseball card.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Let's try and bring the discussion back to the point. Don't be selfish and delete the prices. Keep em intact for the good of the community. Who cares if someone down the road sees what you paid for the card. Doesn't mean you have to let that figure into the negotiation when it's time to sell. And for those who just plain don't think it's their job to help educate their fellow hobbyists, well that's just selfish and not in the spirit of net54 BST

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Let's try and bring the discussion back to the point. Instead of being selfish because 1) you think you'll maximize your selling price if no one knows what you paid or 2) it's no one else's business what transacts on a public hobby forum, why not instead add to the common knowledge for the overall good of the hobby? If I know what things are selling for I might be your next buyer the next time you list that item.

Or maybe something changed in the market, and now you are going to use an outdated price to justify the price of the item for sale.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

Or maybe something changed in the market, and now you are going to use an outdated price to justify the price of the item for sale.

market can always change but always good to have prior sold prices versus no info.... maybe the prior sold market may not matter for a certain deal but there are others it could matter...who knows

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

market can always change but always good to have prior sold prices versus no info.... maybe the prior sold market may not matter for a certain deal but there are others it could matter...who knows

Yep. There are lots of places to get them, just not everywhere.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I've got some crazy ideas.

1. If you think prices should be left up, then when you sell , leave yours up.

2. If you are insulted by lowball offers, you probably should find another business. Really how taxing is it to say "no thanks?"

3. If a seller is asking a museum price for something and it gets you worked up, maybe you should consider another hobby. Really, how hard is it to NOT buy something?

4. If someone is doing business in a manner you don't approve, don't do business with them. Really. No, REALLY.

5. In any of the scenarios above, resorting to calling people out, sending angry PMs, actually insulting them, or otherwise disrupting the peace of the universe is ludicrous. I don't have time to get worked up over everything I disagree with ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO AFFECT ME!

Are these little pieces of cardboard (or leather or flannel or felt or silk etc...) really worth the level of aggravation some of you guys put yourselves through? If it's your hobby, isn't a hobby intended to be a relaxing enjoyable pastime? If it's your business, do you really become more successful the angrier you get? This is absolutely NOT directed at the OP, but rather at all the curmudgeons and hotheads in general who are always right.

I recently had a negotiation with a board member whose name I won't reveal without permission. We have done business before and I like him. In this latest negotiation he tried to "educate" me as to the value of my card. The two seconds it took to read the information were pretty painless so I merely responded with my absolute best price. It didn't work out. He didn't call me an asshole, I didn't call him a degenerate, and we'll probably do business again. I guess it's more fun to fly off the handle and act like there's some kind of moral high ground in a negotiation over a baseball card.

You're right!

[steve B]

I don't really see it as that big a deal.

I tend to leave mine up, mostly because of laziness. Most of my stuff is on the lower end though, so there isn't much worry about someone using the price as a bargaining tool. If my cheap card has sold for X and someone offers you X+$1 you're probably looking at a pretty good deal

Sometimes I'm mildly disappointed when I go to look at something and it's just listed as $sold, but only a little, as most of them are more than I can/will spend right now.

What I'd like to see is that "Sold" added to the title. That would actually be pretty useful whether the price was left up or not. (Not like I do that myself........yes, that's a thing I should work on. )

Steve B