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Arguably, Trout may be one of the best players through his age 25 season ever, but that doesn't translate to him getting the MVP award each year.

The numbers just aren't there this year for Trout.
you're looking at the wrong numbers. haven't you been following what the kc front office has been doing for the last few years? they're one of the forerunners of the analytics movement in baseball, guess it didn't trickle down to the fans.

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you're looking at the wrong numbers. haven't you been following what the kc front office has been doing for the last few years? they're one of the forerunners of the analytics movement in baseball, guess it didn't trickle down to the fans.

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wasn't meant to be an insult...just that they got to back to back world series winnning one doing it all on a small market budget against these teams with 200mil payrolls. you thought that was a fluke or luck?
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wasn't meant to be an insult...just that they got to back to back world series winnning one doing it all on a small market budget against these teams with 200mil payrolls. you thought that was a fluke or luck?
I have followed the team since 1972.

I have seen the team win and lose and been just as big of fan regardless. No bandwagoner here!

The margin for " error " with this team is slim. (You obviously know the game and probably know this, so I apologize if I am telling you something you know.)

That's why the staff goes 5 or 6 innings, and the pen takes over. Our SP is not very good, and the pressure on the pen to be the best, or even " record breaking " in their effectiveness each season is unreasonable. The pen failed miserably this season.

Heading into this season 2016, widely held belief here in KC was the team was better than last year.

The 2015 team had few if any injuries. Players had career years. The pen was the very best in the game, and arguably the best in history of the game.

Hosmer was the only player to repeat the performance of 2015, and even perform a little better in 2016. Everyone else had a drop in performance. The 2016 team also dealt with major injuries from major contributors from the 2015 team.

The problem I have had with this team is their " aggressiveness " at the plate. They swing at everything, and for the past two seasons, and maybe three, KC has been among the worst teams at swinging at pitches out of the strike zone. They are also among the worst in drawing walks, and as a result, the opposing pitcher throws fewer pitches and can go deeper in the game. KC SP has thrown the fewest innings of any staff for the past 2 or three years. The talent isn't there, it's in the pen.

These are a few things that I have seen, and others in KC have too. IMO this is not a blueprint for success, at least not longterm. Too many things have to go right, hence a slim margin for error.

So, while analytics played a part in KC success, a large part required things to go " right " and lucky that players had career years and remained healthy.

What are your thoughts?
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