"Lucky 7" find - Cobb with Cobb back

Marckus99 · #1 03-05-2016, 05:59 PM

Along with the Black Swamp forgery,
Great laser printers nowadays.

Eric72 · #2 03-05-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marckus99

Along with the Black Swamp forgery,
Great laser printers nowadays.

Are you saying the Black Swamp Find and the seven Ty Cobb cards are fakes?

CMIZ5290 · #3 03-05-2016, 06:40 PM

I don't know that every one understands the magnitude of this find. I have said in the past that I thought Cobb backs were as scarce as Wagner's. Can you imagine coming across 7 Wagners? When I first heard about this, I was extremely skeptical. Now, it appears to be the real deal. I don't think it's going to lower the value of these cards. I will add this though, are all 7 cards very comparable in centering and size? They appeared to be from PSA's post....

GasHouseGang · #4 03-10-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I don't know that every one understands the magnitude of this find. I have said in the past that I thought Cobb backs were as scarce as Wagner's. Can you imagine coming across 7 Wagners? When I first heard about this, I was extremely skeptical. Now, it appears to be the real deal. I don't think it's going to lower the value of these cards. I will add this though, are all 7 cards very comparable in centering and size? They appeared to be from PSA's post....

I agree. Can you imagine something like this, "Oh, I just found these up in the attic in an old cigar box. I was going to throw them out since a lot of them are damaged and they are all the same player, but I thought I should check if they're worth something."

Joshwesley · #5 03-10-2016, 01:03 PM

WOW...

Is that all the known Wagners?

Jobu · #6 03-10-2016, 01:12 PM

Pics from the Wagner gallery:

http://t206resource.com/Galleries.html

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Originally Posted by Joshwesley

WOW...

Is that all the known Wagners?

Joshwesley · #7 03-10-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu

Pics from the Wagner gallery:

http://t206resource.com/Galleries.html

thanks JOBU

4815162342 · #8 03-05-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marckus99

Along with the Black Swamp forgery,

Great laser printers nowadays.

I'm guessing you saw Bigfoot in your backyard the night you were abducted by aliens.

Thromdog · #9 03-05-2016, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I don't know that every one understands the magnitude of this find. I have said in the past that I thought Cobb backs were as scarce as Wagner's. Can you imagine coming across 7 Wagners? When I first heard about this, I was extremely skeptical. Now, it appears to be the real deal. I don't think it's going to lower the value of these cards. I will add this though, are all 7 cards very comparable in centering and size? They appeared to be from PSA's post....

Scarcity in my mind is relative to the possibility.

First, I believe this is a massive find. But if there is a card that this could happen, the Ty Cobb back is one that makes the most sense.

Since it would be the only card added to the tin, Uncle Joe going to town on Ty Cobb Tobacco would have pulled out one of these with each tin bought.

Can't say that about a Wagner. He would be competing with hundreds of other players with every pull from a cig pack.

Thromdog · #10 03-05-2016, 11:25 PM

Also, kinda funny thought.

Uncle Joe buying Ty Cobb tin tobacco every week. He gets to the 8th, 9th, 10th, etc card and he's thinking......

"....I don't need this, I already have like 6 or 7 of these"

ullmandds · #11 03-06-2016, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Thromdog

Also, kinda funny thought.

Uncle Joe buying Ty Cobb tin tobacco every week. He gets to the 8th, 9th, 10th, etc card and he's thinking......

"....I don't need this, I already have like 6 or 7 of these"

funny!

insidethewrapper · #12 03-06-2016, 01:16 PM

I don't believe any of the Ty Cobb tobacco Tin Ads state that a card is inserted in them. It appears that these sold well according to the articles. First, if these were placed in the tins , there would have to be a lot of them issued. Not only 20 or so. Secondly, if they were randomly inserted, how could only 1 or 2 people get most of them ? Doesn't make any sense to me .

My theory is I believe they may have been given away at a banquet or were given out at the Ty Cobb Auto business ( which he was very involved with in Augusta ) during the Spring of 1910. See attached from the book "War of the Basepaths ". The recent find stated that their grandfather traveled in Georgia.

Why are some glossed and some are not I don't have any idea ? Does either one have tobacco stains ?

brass_rat · #13 03-06-2016, 06:29 PM

I was looking through copies of Lew Lipset's The Old Judge newsletter, and here's an entry from August 1987 where Lew gets his own Cobb-Cobb.

(I edited the image to include the newsletter's heading with the relevant paragraph/picture.)

Cheers,
Steve

yoyot1 · #14 03-06-2016, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I don't believe any of the Ty Cobb tobacco Tin Ads state that a card is inserted in them. It appears that these sold well according to the articles. First, if these were placed in the tins , there would have to be a lot of them issued. Not only 20 or so. Secondly, if they were randomly inserted, how could only 1 or 2 people get most of them ? Doesn't make any sense to me .

My theory is I believe they may have been given away at a banquet or were given out at the Ty Cobb Auto business ( which he was very involved with in Augusta ) during the Spring of 1910. See attached from the book "War of the Basepaths ". The recent find stated that their grandfather traveled in Georgia.

Why are some glossed and some are not I don't have any idea ? Does either one have tobacco stains ?

The inclusion in the tins is definitely arguable. But the only reason the cards would (or should) have Factory 33 listed is if they were included in some type of Tobacco package. A giveaway (especially one not related to the FR Penn company) doesn't make much sense.

FR Penn did have a presence in Atlanta, one of the sons lived there and ran distribution for that region. Another son was located in San Francisco - I'm still waiting for the big Ty Cobb find from the Bay area

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards · #15 03-06-2016, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342

I'm guessing you saw Bigfoot in your backyard the night you were abducted by aliens.

You too?

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