rarest backs

[darwinbulldog]

If we limit it to cards that have a cataloged front, comprise less than 1% of the cataloged set's total population, and of which fewer than 50 examples with the rare back are known to exist, what should we add or subtract from this group? (Let's also omit the blank backs and supplements and blue Old Mill for now.)


E98 Old Put
E121 Kings
M101-4/5 Everybody's, Haserot's, Holmes to Homes, Mall Theater
R316 Douglas Park, Morton, Rialto
T206 Old Mill (brown)
T206 Lenox (brown)
T206 Broad Leaf 460
"T206" Ty Cobb
T207 Red Cross
T213-3 Overprint
T216 Virginia Extra
W514 Hendler's, Barker
W515 Fleer, Jersey
W551 Wool's
W573/E120 Cafe du Monde, Cream Nut, Kings, Leader Theatre
W575 Johnson, Haffner's, Clark's, Gassler's

[bn2cardz]

t205 Hindu

[smtjoy]

Im not sure what the other M101-4/5 collectors think but I dont put the Haserot's back in the same category as the others as its a stamped back not a printed back. Its a very cool card but I would not put it as an official back.

Some exhibit stamped backs-

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

If we limit it to cards that have a cataloged front, comprise less than 1% of the cataloged set's total population, and of which fewer than 50 examples with the rare back are known to exist, what should we add or subtract from this group? (Let's also omit the blank backs and supplements and blue Old Mill for now.)


E98 Old Put
E121 Kings
M101-4/5 Everybody's, Haserot's, Holmes to Homes, Mall Theater
R316 Douglas Park, Morton, Rialto
T206 Old Mill (brown)
T206 Lenox (brown)
T206 Broad Leaf 460
"T206" Ty Cobb
T207 Red Cross
T213-3 Overprint
T216 Virginia Extra
W514 Hendler's, Barker
W515 Fleer, Jersey
W551 Wool's
W573/E120 Cafe du Monde, Cream Nut, Kings, Leader Theatre
W575 Johnson, Haffner's, Clark's, Gassler's

I think T213-1's should be added. I surmise there are less than 50 of each.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

I think T213-1's should be added. I surmise there are less than 50 of each.

Even so, they're about 50 times too plentiful for what I'm trying to list.

[ValKehl]

There also exists a W575-1 with the Leader Theatre back. I don't have one in my type collection to show (wish I did!), but Leon shows one in his fabulous type collection, which anyone can view by clicking on "VINTAGE LINKS" at the top of the page.
Val

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Even so, they're about 50 times too plentiful for what I'm trying to list.

"50" is not the population number of 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards. Unless many, many more are discovered.

It's very much less, as the following illustrates......


6 known......
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5 known......
....................



4 known......
....................




Known cards............... 5 .................................................. ...................... 4 .................................................. .................. 4





Furthermore, similar population numbers exist for the 62 other subjects in this 1910 COUPON set.

Therefore, darwinbulldog, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Dean Hackett's suggestion (in Post #35) regarding these T213-1 cards.
There are less of these known than the 13 (or 14) examples of the Ty Cobb card with the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco back on your list.


TED Z
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[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"50" is not the population number of 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards. Unless many, many more are discovered.

It's very much less, as the following illustrates......


6 known......
....................



5 known......
....................



4 known......
....................




Known cards............... 5 .................................................. ...................... 4 .................................................. .................. 4





Furthermore, similar population numbers exist for the 62 other subjects in this 1910 COUPON set.

Therefore, darwinbulldog, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Dean Hackett's suggestion (in Post #35) regarding these T213-1 cards.
There are less of these known than the 13 (or 14) examples of the Ty Cobb card with the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco back on your list.


TED Z
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By my estimation, 68 times 4 is more than 13. Even more than 50 probably.

[tiger8mush]

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

Gertenrich is probably a good addition, and a good-looking one to boot.

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

I have the Elmer Miller from this group of cards, wonder if between all of us on the board, we could make a complete set?

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

Don't all known copies have the same paper loss on the back?

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

You called me Rhys... I am forever wounded!

I'm just kidding even my mother calls us the wrong name more often than not!

Of the 12-15 or so Lou Gertenrich cards only one is damage free on the back (Joe Sewell).

[ValKehl]

I may be wrong, but I think there are less than 50 E222 A.W.H Caramel cards known to exist.
Val

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I may be wrong, but I think there are less than 50 E222 A.W.H Caramel cards known to exist.
Val

I don't think there's enough of an AWH vs. AWA discrepancy to qualify. That is, neither one of them is less than 1% of the E222 population.

[ValKehl]

I agree with your response re the E222s - I forgot about your "comprise less than 1% of the cataloged set's total population" stipulation.
Val

[rman444]

M131 is probably pretty close

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

if we limit it to cards that have a cataloged front, comprise less than 1% of the cataloged set's total population, and of which fewer than 50 examples with the rare back are known to exist, what should we add or subtract from this group? (let's also omit the blank backs and supplements and blue old mill for now.)


e98 old put
e121 kings
m101-4/5 everybody's, haserot's, holmes to homes, mall theater
r316 douglas park, morton, rialto
t206 old mill (brown)
t206 lenox (brown)
t206 broad leaf 460
"t206" ty cobb
t207 red cross
t213-3 overprint
t216 virginia extra
w514 hendler's, barker
w515 fleer, jersey
w551 wool's
w573/e120 cafe du monde, cream nut, kings, leader theatre
w575 johnson, haffner's, clark's, gassler's

t214

[ullmandds]

d303...esp mothers bread.