rarest backs

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

I think T213-1's should be added. I surmise there are less than 50 of each.

Even so, they're about 50 times too plentiful for what I'm trying to list.

[ValKehl]

There also exists a W575-1 with the Leader Theatre back. I don't have one in my type collection to show (wish I did!), but Leon shows one in his fabulous type collection, which anyone can view by clicking on "VINTAGE LINKS" at the top of the page.
Val

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Even so, they're about 50 times too plentiful for what I'm trying to list.

"50" is not the population number of 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards. Unless many, many more are discovered.

It's very much less, as the following illustrates......


6 known......
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5 known......
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4 known......
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Known cards............... 5 .................................................. ...................... 4 .................................................. .................. 4





Furthermore, similar population numbers exist for the 62 other subjects in this 1910 COUPON set.

Therefore, darwinbulldog, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Dean Hackett's suggestion (in Post #35) regarding these T213-1 cards.
There are less of these known than the 13 (or 14) examples of the Ty Cobb card with the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco back on your list.


TED Z
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[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by tedzan

"50" is not the population number of 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards. Unless many, many more are discovered.

It's very much less, as the following illustrates......


6 known......
....................



5 known......
....................



4 known......
....................




Known cards............... 5 .................................................. ...................... 4 .................................................. .................. 4





Furthermore, similar population numbers exist for the 62 other subjects in this 1910 COUPON set.

Therefore, darwinbulldog, you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss Dean Hackett's suggestion (in Post #35) regarding these T213-1 cards.
There are less of these known than the 13 (or 14) examples of the Ty Cobb card with the Ty Cobb Smoking Tobacco back on your list.


TED Z
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By my estimation, 68 times 4 is more than 13. Even more than 50 probably.

[tiger8mush]

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

Gertenrich is probably a good addition, and a good-looking one to boot.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

Gertenrich is probably a good addition, and a good-looking one to boot.

Maybe you missed my suggestion earlier, but I would think the t205 Hindu should be on the list.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Maybe you missed my suggestion earlier, but I would think the t205 Hindu should be on the list.

I did see that earlier. Thank you. I will add that to the list.

So we have T205, 206, and 207 represented. TTT isn't rare enough to add T204, and T208 is too rare altogether, so I think this is the longest run of consecutive ACC designations we'll have, barring some other weird W stamp sets I don't know of.

Anyone other than Leon have most of these?

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

I have the Elmer Miller from this group of cards, wonder if between all of us on the board, we could make a complete set?

[mrvster]

T206 Blank Back are amongst the rarest......there are only single confirmed examples or "twins" at the most in T206(mostly southern league)......and, only 1/4 of the players approx. have been confirmed!

I love that they have flown under the radar for so many years.....they aren't even "issued cards"

I hate pointing this out, cause it ultimately makes what I'm chasing almost impossible to get, happened with scrap to me....and bb's are scrap also...

[mrvster]

btw....all your input on rarities are great! I feel bad for the other issues and super rarity, they are not just as widely collected as T206, but they do deserve the respect great input

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

Don't all known copies have the same paper loss on the back?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ZachS

Don't all known copies have the same paper loss on the back?

not all but the vast majority..(this is one has Walker on the front and is an SGC 40 holder)

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by Leon

not all but the vast majority..(this is one has Walker on the front and is an SGC 40 holder)

Ah... I just remember seeing a bunch posted somewhere (here probably) and they all seemed to have the same back damage like they all came from a scrapbook.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

how about E121 with Gertenrich back ... I think there are right around 50 known (of which Rhys seems to own a good portion of!!! )

You called me Rhys... I am forever wounded!

I'm just kidding even my mother calls us the wrong name more often than not!

Of the 12-15 or so Lou Gertenrich cards only one is damage free on the back (Joe Sewell).

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Of the 12-15 or so Lou Gertenrich cards only one is damage free on the back (Joe Sewell).

So we can say that a Gertenrich without back damage is an extremely rare back...

[ValKehl]

I may be wrong, but I think there are less than 50 E222 A.W.H Caramel cards known to exist.
Val

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

I may be wrong, but I think there are less than 50 E222 A.W.H Caramel cards known to exist.
Val

I don't think there's enough of an AWH vs. AWA discrepancy to qualify. That is, neither one of them is less than 1% of the E222 population.

[ValKehl]

I agree with your response re the E222s - I forgot about your "comprise less than 1% of the cataloged set's total population" stipulation.
Val

[rman444]

M131 is probably pretty close

[ValKehl]

How about these (see Leon's collection for examples)?
E135: Merchant's Bakery
W575-1: Queen City Cigar, Shotwell Mfg. Co., & Service Candy Co.

[Mountaineer]

Great knowledge and great cards in here fellas! I'm learning a bunch about cards I never knew existed!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

How about these (see Leon's collection for examples)?
E135: Merchant's Bakery
W575-1: Queen City Cigar, Shotwell Mfg. Co., & Service Candy Co.

Merchants Bakery is very rare but in the near future it won't make the list.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by rman444

M131 is probably pretty close

+1

[x2drich2000]

You could probably add each of the w554 red printed back variations as well.

DJ