OT: Bonds, Clemens, Sosa to be on HOF ballot

[sylbry]

There is one very simple truth. Nearly 100 years after Ruth first took the field he is still being considered one of the greatest players who ever lived. And it is safe to say he will still be considered that 100 years from now.

With Bonds, as technology and science continues to progress Bonds will be an after thought.

Ruth's success was based strictly on raw ability. So much so HE CHANGED THE WAY THE GAME WAS PLAYED. Bonds' success was due in a very large part to progression in sports medicine and science... the best bats, the best balls, body armor, the best nutrition, the best medicine, the best training, and the best drugs.

Make no mistake about it, if MLB opens the door to freely allow players to do what Bonds was doing, Bonds won't look so great. Can you imagine a player with Mantle's natural ability having the advantages Bonds' had? For most of Bonds' career he wasn't even the best player in the league. That would be Griffey Jr. It wasn't until he started using that he because so feared.

And since we are pointing out difference in eras, ponder these two:

Ruth hit 54 homers in 1920. Ray Chapman died late in the 1920 season. MLB did not start using new balls until after. Ruth hit 54 homers while playing with beat up baseballs.

And do you think for a second Bonds would have gotten away with crowding the plate in the 1920's? Think he would have tried without his body armor?

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

I lift too, and trained for baseball and was on the path of a pro career...

Playing D-3 college baseball is not a path of a pro career.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Playing D-3 college baseball is not a path of a pro career.

Yes because I forgot how much you knew about my life. When you googled me, did you find anything about the scholarships I had that gotten taken away because I blew everything in my shoulder. Did it tell you about the scouts and the pro teams I worked out for?

Just shut the up and don't bring a personal matter into this fun and interesting debate, that is extremely classless and immature on your end. All because of a disagreement over someone's opinion.

You must not know shit about baseball, they find talent in all levels. Ever heard of Jordan Zimmermann? 2nd round pick of the Nats a few years ago. Guess where he came from. Yeah D3.

Just cause you were a terrible athlete and rode the pine, doesn't mean you just go and post about someone else because your daddy couldn't convince the coach to not cut you.

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Yes because I forgot how much you knew about my life. When you googled me, did you find anything about the scholarships I had that gotten taken away because I blew everything in my shoulder. Did it tell you about the scouts and the pro teams I worked out for?

Just shut the up and don't bring a personal matter into this fun and interesting debate, that is extremely classless and immature on your end. All because of a disagreement over someone's opinion.

You must not know shit about baseball, they find talent in all levels. Ever heard of Jordan Zimmermann? 2nd round pick of the Nats a few years ago. Guess where he came from. Yeah D3.

Just cause you were a terrible athlete and rode the pine, doesn't mean you just go and post about someone else because your daddy couldn't convince the coach to not cut you.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Lets just please get back to this discussion, because I love hearing everyone's opinions and arguments, and that helps make this game great.

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Lets just please get back to this discussion, because I love hearing everyone's opinions and arguments, and that helps make this game great.

Go ahead and respond to the points I made.

And for the record I made nothing person, just pointed out D-3 college ball isn't a path to the pros. You on the other hand...

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by sylbry

Go ahead and respond to the points I made.

And for the record I made nothing person, just pointed out D-3 college ball isn't a path to the pros. You on the other hand...

How the heck was that not personal!? Lets see, you spent the time to google me, found out where I went to school, then quoted my saying, "D3 isn't a path to the pros." And then the, "you on the other hand..."

What are you trying to get at? Any level is a path, dont be blind by your arrogance. Heard of Toe Nash? Probably not because it doesn't seem like you know much about baseball, but google him. I reiterate, just cause mommy and daddy couldn't get the coach to not cut you, you don't need to try to personally attack someone. Grow up

[sylbry]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

How the heck was that not personal!? Lets see, you spent the time to google me, found out where I went to school, then quoted my saying, "D3 isn't a path to the pros." And then the, "you on the other hand..."

What are you trying to get at? Any level is a path, dont be blind by your arrogance. Heard of Toe Nash? Probably not because it doesn't seem like you know much about baseball, but google him. I reiterate, just cause mommy and daddy couldn't get the coach to not cut you, you don't need to try to personally attack someone. Grow up

Let's see, if someone on a message boards says they were on track to play pro ball it is natural to look into that. Don't be embarrassed by playing D-3 ball. Then again, don't pretend it is more than it is.

Your basing my knowledge on baseball on what exactly?

You can cut the crap out about mommy and daddy and getting the coach not to cut me out. That is nothing but talking out of your rear.