Has (most) everything good been graded

[RUSH2112]

I keep all my cards ungraded cards in glassine envelopes.

I envision a day in 10 or 20 years where sportscard collectors become horrified to find out that the chemicals in the hard plastic slabs actually breakdown and cause damage to the card stock.

These plastic holders, likely made in China, from a long list of chemicals, have only been around for 10 years or so we really don't know the long term effects.

I hope none of you high end graded speciman collectors, lose the ability to have a peacefull sleep tonight. These were not my intentions.

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

I keep all my cards ungraded cards in glassine envelopes.

I envision a day in 10 or 20 years where sportscard collectors become horrified to find out that the chemicals in the hard plastic slabs actually breakdown and cause damage to the card stock.

These plastic holders, likely made in China, from a long list of chemicals, have only been around for 10 years or so we really don't know the long term effects.

I hope none of you high end graded speciman collectors, lose the ability to have a peacefull sleep tonight. These were not my intentions.

You may want to alert Lucious and Spence about the possible chemical reactions of plastic on their prestine collections.

This thread is entertaining though.

The ungraded card snobs vs. the Slab elitists.

[Touch'EmAll]

I just chose 5 completely random semi high-end cards and looked up the PSA approx. pops in grade 5 and higher:

1915 Cracker Jack Mathewson = 60
1916 M101-4 Sporting News Cobb = 20
T206 Piedmont W. Johnson hands chest = 25
1933 Goudey #53 Ruth = 150
1949 Bowman Satchell Paige = 310

Now what are your guesses as to legit PSA 5 and higher non-graded? If you multiply each by 5 you would get:

1915 CJ Matty = 300
1916 SportNews Cobb = 100
T206 Piedmont W.Johnson = 125
1933 Goudey Ruth = 750
1949 Bowman Paige = 1,500+

Are these the type of true worldly non-graded pops for these random chosen cards?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

I just chose 5 completely random semi high-end cards and looked up the PSA approx. pops in grade 5 and higher:

1915 Cracker Jack Mathewson = 60
1916 M101-4 Sporting News Cobb = 20
T206 Piedmont W. Johnson hands chest = 25
1933 Goudey #53 Ruth = 150
1949 Bowman Satchell Paige = 310

Now what are your guesses as to legit PSA 5 and higher non-graded? If you multiply each by 5 you would get:

1915 CJ Matty = 300
1916 SportNews Cobb = 100
T206 Piedmont W.Johnson = 125
1933 Goudey Ruth = 750
1949 Bowman Paige = 1,500+

Are these the type of true worldly non-graded pops for these random chosen cards?

I believe that's likely to be about right.

The CJ and sporting News are probably a bit tougher than 5x, the T206 and Goudey very close, and the 49 Paige probably a bit easier than 5x.

I collect some stuff that's very close to those for numbers existing in total, and there's very little grading yet. Those things come up for sale about as often as any of those cards raw in 5 or better. Not often, but not impossible -even on Ebay.

Steve B

[FrankWakefield]

No, most of the good stuff isn't graded.

No, an old collector doesn't need slabs to know his cards are legit, or for protection.

Before Mr. Carter decided to sell his cards, did he have any good ones and were they graded. Yes and no... And there are a few hundred more Mr. Carter's out there who know more than the graders and have no use for grading.

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

No, most of the good stuff isn't graded.

No, an old collector doesn't need slabs to know his cards are legit, or for protection.

Before Mr. Carter decided to sell his cards, did he have any good ones and were they graded. No and no... And there are a few hundred more Mr. Carter's out there who know more than the graders and have no use for grading.

That's because Lionel Carter was born in 1918 and started collecting cards in 1933 before slabs and computers were invented.

Had Carter been born in 1982, all his cards would have been slabbed and on the PSA registry.

Fact.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

That's because Lionel Carter was born in 1918 and started collecting cards in 1933 before slabs and computers were invented.

Had Carter been born in 1982, all his cards would have been slabbed and on the PSA registry.

Fact.

I politely disagree. Nothing against PSA but knowing of how Lionel collected he would have used BVG's authentication only service, without numerical grades, to protect his cards. He collected cards and I don't think he would have collected plastic. And saying something is "fact" as you did shows a lack of understanding.

[Brian Van Horn]

Has (most) everything good been graded

No.

[cobblove]

Yes 110% has been graded.
So please stop looking.

[Matthew H]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

You may want to alert Lucious and Spence about the possible chemical reactions of plastic on their prestine collections.

This thread is entertaining though.

The ungraded card snobs vs. the Slab elitists.

Spence might be more worried about the cards damaging the plastic.

Lol and Jk