Has (most) everything good been graded

[Jaybird]

Just my opinions - not speaking for all...

a) I can authenticate from personal knowledge and hobby friends
b) top loader provides as much protection as plastic
c) grade if and when sale happens (I'm not in a rush), if necessary
d) don't understand what this means
e) not interested
f) pride? I think they are fun but not sure I derive pride from the cards.

[Touch'EmAll]

OK, I give, you guys are killing me. Guess my opinion is way off base. Maybe coins are much different than cards.

I wanna be shopping where you guys are shopping - have my bank roll wad of $100.'s ready to go.

I would love to see that stack of ungraded T206 Walter Johnson's in legit PSA 5, 6 & 7 raw. Would be a sight for my sore eyes.

[markf31]

Originally Posted by 100backstroke

I would love to see that stack of ungraded T206 Walter Johnson's in legit PSA 5, 6 & 7 raw. Would be a sight for my sore eyes.

Let's be honest now, you don't find "stacks" of PSA 6 & 7 graded T206 Johnsons either.

[Touch'EmAll]

Mark - my point exactly - you just don't see this kind of stuff often, either raw or graded, and when you do its 9 out of 10 times graded - ungraded high end cards, especially raw, are almost never seen anymore.

For all those folks who claim there are tons, and millions out there, I would like to buy raw 1920's Exhibits of Ruth, Gehrig and Hornsby in equivalent PSA 5 and higher. PM me with your list and I will pay you top dollar.

[Jaybird]

The stuff you see is the stuff for sale. That's it. Why are you assuming that everything that is out there is for sale? As Adam stated, the only conclusion you can draw is that out of the stuff for sale, 90% is graded.

Many, many cards out there in people's collections that is not for sale even with an offer on the table. Trust me. There are some cards I've been pestering people about that just aren't going to come out of their collections.

So, just because you see a catalog with cards in it or a table with cards on it or ebay with cards listed that are 90% graded doesn't mean that's all there is.

[Touch'EmAll]

I agree - "...out of the stuff for sale, 90% is graded."

perhaps I should have reworded my original post with that specific contingency.

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by Jaybird

The stuff you see is the stuff for sale. That's it. Why are you assuming that everything that is out there is for sale? As Adam stated, the only conclusion you can draw is that out of the stuff for sale, 90% is graded.

Many, many cards out there in people's collections that is not for sale even with an offer on the table. Trust me. There are some cards I've been pestering people about that just aren't going to come out of their collections.

So, just because you see a catalog with cards in it or a table with cards on it or ebay with cards listed that are 90% graded doesn't mean that's all there is.

Perfectly said. I know of many extremely nice cards that aren't slabbed. They have been in private collections for 20 + years. If they were to ever be sold, they would likely get slabbed, but there is a TON of stuff out there in personal collections that aren't in slabs right now. People just don't know about them because they aren't sitting on eBay with a high BIN.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Jaybird

Just my opinions - not speaking for all...

a) I can authenticate from personal knowledge and hobby friends
b) top loader provides as much protection as plastic
c) grade if and when sale happens (I'm not in a rush), if necessary
d) don't understand what this means
e) not interested
f) pride? I think they are fun but not sure I derive pride from the cards.

+1

Although I do take a little pride in my (raw) collection.

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by Bicem

+1

Although I do take a little pride in my (raw) collection.

I was thinking about it and I do as well. Point taken.

[ScottFandango]

as there are several self proclaimed CRACKERS on this board, there will always be a supply of nice RAW cards since these people decrease the numbers of slabbed cards...

now when they or their kids try to sell these CRACKED cards, they will surely garner less interest and value than if they left them slabbed...

smelling cards is overrated, and gross

[jcmtiger]

I know of 4 or 5 old time collectors that have great collections of pre war cards, sports and non sports and they are not graded, so I think your number is high.

Joe

[RUSH2112]

I keep all my cards ungraded cards in glassine envelopes.

I envision a day in 10 or 20 years where sportscard collectors become horrified to find out that the chemicals in the hard plastic slabs actually breakdown and cause damage to the card stock.

These plastic holders, likely made in China, from a long list of chemicals, have only been around for 10 years or so we really don't know the long term effects.

I hope none of you high end graded speciman collectors, lose the ability to have a peacefull sleep tonight. These were not my intentions.

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by RUSH2112

I keep all my cards ungraded cards in glassine envelopes.

I envision a day in 10 or 20 years where sportscard collectors become horrified to find out that the chemicals in the hard plastic slabs actually breakdown and cause damage to the card stock.

These plastic holders, likely made in China, from a long list of chemicals, have only been around for 10 years or so we really don't know the long term effects.

I hope none of you high end graded speciman collectors, lose the ability to have a peacefull sleep tonight. These were not my intentions.

You may want to alert Lucious and Spence about the possible chemical reactions of plastic on their prestine collections.

This thread is entertaining though.

The ungraded card snobs vs. the Slab elitists.