Need help on this Mantle please...

[Lucas00]

I remember reading a not so flattering story about Joe, might’ve even been from a forum member?

One day in a restaurant Joe frequented (Forget the name) he was approached by a young fan for an autograph. Joe said something to the tune of leave me alone can’t you see I’m eating?

The restaurant owner, A good friend of Joe. Who mind you let Joe eat for free Anytime he came in, (it was almost daily I believe). And we’re not talking McDonald’s. Joe was getting nice steak dinners on the house and was at this point, very wealthy. Anyways, the owner saw this happen and was absolutely furious at Joe. I don’t remember exactly what happened after but I don’t think Joe was eating on the house there ever again.

Story is a bit spotty but the just is there.

Another fun fact about Joe, my father got his autograph at a minor league game (sometime in the 80s) when he was the spokesman for Mr. Coffee. He was doing some kind of promo at the game. My dad only had a crappy glove to get signed by Joe so he did, and let me say cheap ballpoint pens and old gloves do not mix at all. It is almost completely faded unfortunately.
Interestingly he told me there wasn’t a soul around Joe and he walked right up to where he was sitting and Joe had no problem signing it.

Can you imagine Mike Trout showing up at a random Minor league game and basically sitting by himself in a corner promoting a random product and nobody caring? Unreal.

[jingram058]

I do not think Mantle despised DiMaggio or vice versa.

I have a baseball personally signed by DiMaggio with the added inscription "Yankee Clipper". This was obtained from him at his children's hospital, in person, for free. GRATIS. Before we dump on Joe, ask yourself, how many sign for free today? Not very many, yes?

[A2000]

This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.

[rand1com]

Sorry but you are dead wrong. It is as authentic as they come. It will pass PSA/DNA, JSA, or Beckett with no problems.

[A2000]

No reputable TPA would pass this. PSA/DNA has a quick opinion service and Beckett has a signature review service that I believe is $10@ for an online review. The OP should get their opinion on this.

This is a very low level forgery that the aforementioned companies would fail every single time.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by A2000

No reputable TPA would pass this. PSA/DNA has a quick opinion service and Beckett has a signature review service that I believe is $10@ for an online review. The OP should get their opinion on this.

This is a very low level forgery that the aforementioned companies would fail every single time.

We can agree to disagree. I'll leave it at that.

[7nohitter]

Originally Posted by A2000

This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.

Ummmmm.....if Shelley said it's 'good'....it is good.

[gonefishin]

Regardless of what the inscription reads, I agree with the authenticity. PSA would not only authenticate the auto, but would authenticate the handwriting. Check out the M - it appears several times and appears to be very consistent with later years writing and autograph. However, I could be wrong.

FYI, I just had a DiMaggio authenticated by PSA. I included snaps of the event where he signed it, or they may not have authenticated it. The cost for DiMaggio authentication is now at $75 - wow. Attached is a photo.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by A2000

This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.

I am willing to bet 500 dollars how about you

Please go to this site and tell me this is also a forgery https://www.ebay.com/itm/175177638779

[A2000]

Originally Posted by shelly

I am willing to bet 500 dollars how about you

Please go to this site and tell me this is also a forgery https://www.ebay.com/itm/175177638779

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

[jad22]

Where is Chuck on this?

[Fuddjcal]

my 1st impression is that it was good as well.

You know I'm a sucker for the ink drop on the M and perfect placement,

It is one inscription I can't ever remember seeing. Interesting it shows up on the other print in silver that Shelly posted, where he ALSO "drops" the ink on the M, among other good points.

[rand1com]

Or Christopher Williams?

Or Richard Simon?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by A2000

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

This would be a good idea for the OP. Also would be interested in Chris or Richard's impression/opinion or whether they've seen the piece before? I would think that's more reliable then PSA or JSA. PSA quick opinion is only 10 bucks.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by A2000

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by shelly

Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter

[shelly]

Originally Posted by A2000

This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.

Can you show me another item like this. You must know of a few to be so sure.
Is the Mantle signiture a fogery on tha piece as well.

[Duluth Eskimo]

This autograph is as solid as it gets.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by jingram058

I do not think Mantle despised DiMaggio or vice versa.

I have a baseball personally signed by DiMaggio with the added inscription "Yankee Clipper". This was obtained from him at his children's hospital, in person, for free. GRATIS. Before we dump on Joe, ask yourself, how many sign for free today? Not very many, yes?

It is a fact that they did not like each other. Sometimes they were forced through contracts to sign the same item at shows but neither liked doing it. The dual signed items are rare and sell for a nice premium. A dual signed ball will easily go for $2K or likely more.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by rand1com

It is a fact that they did not like each other. Sometimes they were forced through contracts to sign the same item at shows but neither liked doing it. The dual signed items are rare and sell for a nice premium. A dual signed ball will easily go for $2K or likely more.

Joe would not sign the ball if Mantle was on it.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by shelly

Joe would not sign the ball if Mantle was on it.

Well, one of them would sign with the other on it because I have seen dual signed baseballs. Maybe Joe signed first and then Mickey signed but there are balls out there signed by both.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by rand1com

Well, one of them would sign with the other on it because I have seen dual signed baseballs. Maybe Joe signed first and then Mickey signed but there are balls out there signed by both.

I agree there are good balls with both signitures but Joe would be on it first.

[sicollector1954]

Had this happen right before my eyes in Chicago at a Joe D. signing. Guy had a ball signed by Mantle and Ted Williams. When he got to the table....Dimaggio looked at it and handed it back and then said....I don't sign anything that Mantle signed ahead of me....so the guy had to get out of line...go buy a ball and then later got that signed as a single.

[sicollector1954]

Had this happen right before my eyes in Chicago at a Joe D. signing. Guy had a ball signed by Mantle and Ted Williams. When he got to the table....Dimaggio looked at it and handed it back and then said....I don't sign anything that Mantle signed ahead of me....so the guy had to get out of line...go buy a ball and then later got that signed as a single.