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Old 06-27-2023, 05:48 PM
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This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:02 PM
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Sorry but you are dead wrong. It is as authentic as they come. It will pass PSA/DNA, JSA, or Beckett with no problems.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:14 PM
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No reputable TPA would pass this. PSA/DNA has a quick opinion service and Beckett has a signature review service that I believe is $10@ for an online review. The OP should get their opinion on this.

This is a very low level forgery that the aforementioned companies would fail every single time.
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Old 06-27-2023, 06:26 PM
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No reputable TPA would pass this. PSA/DNA has a quick opinion service and Beckett has a signature review service that I believe is $10@ for an online review. The OP should get their opinion on this.

This is a very low level forgery that the aforementioned companies would fail every single time.
We can agree to disagree. I'll leave it at that.
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Old 06-27-2023, 09:06 PM
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This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.
Ummmmm.....if Shelley said it's 'good'....it is good.
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Old 06-28-2023, 10:11 AM
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Regardless of what the inscription reads, I agree with the authenticity. PSA would not only authenticate the auto, but would authenticate the handwriting. Check out the M - it appears several times and appears to be very consistent with later years writing and autograph. However, I could be wrong.

FYI, I just had a DiMaggio authenticated by PSA. I included snaps of the event where he signed it, or they may not have authenticated it. The cost for DiMaggio authentication is now at $75 - wow. Attached is a photo.
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Old 06-28-2023, 11:23 AM
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This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.


I am willing to bet 500 dollars how about you

Please go to this site and tell me this is also a forgery https://www.ebay.com/itm/175177638779
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Old 06-28-2023, 04:43 PM
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I am willing to bet 500 dollars how about you

Please go to this site and tell me this is also a forgery https://www.ebay.com/itm/175177638779
Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:06 PM
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Where is Chuck on this?
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:14 PM
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my 1st impression is that it was good as well.

You know I'm a sucker for the ink drop on the M and perfect placement,

It is one inscription I can't ever remember seeing. Interesting it shows up on the other print in silver that Shelly posted, where he ALSO "drops" the ink on the M, among other good points.
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:15 PM
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Or Christopher Williams?

Or Richard Simon?
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Old 06-28-2023, 07:17 PM
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Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.
This would be a good idea for the OP. Also would be interested in Chris or Richard's impression/opinion or whether they've seen the piece before? I would think that's more reliable then PSA or JSA. PSA quick opinion is only 10 bucks.
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Old 06-29-2023, 08:27 AM
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Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.
Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.
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Old 06-29-2023, 03:01 PM
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Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter
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Old 06-29-2023, 03:33 PM
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well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter
100% fine by me.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:30 PM
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So who is the arbiter as to authenticity since neither of the combatants have the item in hand to submit for authentication to any 3rd party? The online opinions are not trustworthy as you have no idea who looks at the scans/pictures of the autograph.
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Old 06-29-2023, 09:04 AM
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This Mantle is 100% a forgery and it's not even really close.
Can you show me another item like this. You must know of a few to be so sure.
Is the Mantle signiture a fogery on tha piece as well.
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Old 06-29-2023, 10:44 AM
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This autograph is as solid as it gets.
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