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Old 06-29-2023, 08:27 AM
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Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.
Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

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Old 06-29-2023, 03:01 PM
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Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter
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Old 06-29-2023, 03:33 PM
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well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter
100% fine by me.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:30 PM
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So who is the arbiter as to authenticity since neither of the combatants have the item in hand to submit for authentication to any 3rd party? The online opinions are not trustworthy as you have no idea who looks at the scans/pictures of the autograph.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:40 PM
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If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:59 PM
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If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.
The third parties are fine as long as they have the actual item in hand and not a picture of one because someone has to actually sign the LOA or rejection letter.

The online opinions may be looked at by anybody that works for the company and there is ZERO accountability because NO ONE signs anything. They do not tell you who reviewed the item. They don't even guarantee that they will stand behind their own online opinion.

So if Christopher Williams opines that it is indeed authentic, does that end it?
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Old 06-29-2023, 05:15 PM
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I have sent the picture to Ken Golden and Scott Stimmel two outstanding autograph people. Let's see what they say. If nothing, then i will go with Chris
By the way there are five yeas to one ney. I should win on that alone.

I asked you before. please show me another example I have shown two.
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If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.
Chris and I communicated not long ago. He's not in the hobby like he used to be. Also, please put your full name out here per the rules AND please pm me. thanks
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