Need help on this Mantle please...

[A2000]

Originally Posted by shelly

I am willing to bet 500 dollars how about you

Please go to this site and tell me this is also a forgery https://www.ebay.com/itm/175177638779

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

[jad22]

Where is Chuck on this?

[Fuddjcal]

my 1st impression is that it was good as well.

You know I'm a sucker for the ink drop on the M and perfect placement,

It is one inscription I can't ever remember seeing. Interesting it shows up on the other print in silver that Shelly posted, where he ALSO "drops" the ink on the M, among other good points.

[rand1com]

Or Christopher Williams?

Or Richard Simon?

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by A2000

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

This would be a good idea for the OP. Also would be interested in Chris or Richard's impression/opinion or whether they've seen the piece before? I would think that's more reliable then PSA or JSA. PSA quick opinion is only 10 bucks.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by A2000

Shelly, I would be happy to take you up on that $500 bet, but I wouldn't accept the money, and would instead have it donated to a good cause.

The link you sent for that ebay listing is of course a copy of a forgery as well.

These are easy to spot forgeries. Please contact someone who is an expert on Mantle autographs. Reach out to someone in JSA, Beckett or PSA/DNA and let's settle this.

Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by shelly

Why would I trust them. I would put myself as a Mantle expert. I have seen these so called experts authentacte thing that I just laughed at. I have saved many people on this site a lot of money along with Chris, Richard, Chuck and Deluth. I have been wrong before but on this one I would really be surprised if I was.

well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter

[A2000]

Originally Posted by shelly

well how about we send the money to what ever town we live. To the local dog shelter

100% fine by me.

[rand1com]

So who is the arbiter as to authenticity since neither of the combatants have the item in hand to submit for authentication to any 3rd party? The online opinions are not trustworthy as you have no idea who looks at the scans/pictures of the autograph.

[A2000]

If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by A2000

If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.

The third parties are fine as long as they have the actual item in hand and not a picture of one because someone has to actually sign the LOA or rejection letter.

The online opinions may be looked at by anybody that works for the company and there is ZERO accountability because NO ONE signs anything. They do not tell you who reviewed the item. They don't even guarantee that they will stand behind their own online opinion.

So if Christopher Williams opines that it is indeed authentic, does that end it?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by A2000

If you guys don’t trust the TPAs to look at Mickey mantle, I seriously don’t know what to tell you.

I’m sure Chris Williams will be able to let you guys know this is a forgery but I haven’t seen him on here in awhile.

Chris and I communicated not long ago. He's not in the hobby like he used to be. Also, please put your full name out here per the rules AND please pm me. thanks
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