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View Poll Results: Should members be allowed to post for sale listings in the b/s/t without a price?
Yes 71 22.90%
No 161 51.94%
I don't care 78 25.16%
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:05 AM
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Default Should for sale listings be allowed in the b/s/t without prices

1. Yes a seller should be free to list any card with or without a price.

2. No an asking price must be stated.

3. I don't care.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:24 AM
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I voted NO.
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I suppose I don't really care, but if a price isn't listed, I pay no attention to the listing and move on.
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Old 04-05-2016, 11:44 AM
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I voted Yes, not because I do it. See my post in the other thread to find out why.
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I suppose I don't really care, but if a price isn't listed, I pay no attention to the listing and move on.

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I voted NO.

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I suppose I don't really care, but if a price isn't listed, I pay no attention to the listing and move on.
Pretty much the same for me.
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Old 04-05-2016, 03:43 PM
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I suppose I don't really care, but if a price isn't listed, I pay no attention to the listing and move on.
Same here. I don't think a rule should be made, but without a price or picture I usually ignore and move on.
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Ditto. If there's mutual interest, seller and buyer will work it out [or not].

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I don't care. If it's a regular item without a price I keep moving. If it's something I think I really need and price doesn't matter I will contact the seller.


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That can work the other way though. An experienced and knowledgeable collector or seller should know what they need for a card and be able to list a price.
I hate just "Best Offer"

Tell me what you want, then "or best offer" if you want, or say firm, and if I think it's something that's reasonable and I can afford it then we'll talk and/or do business.
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Sellers option to list prices and you don't need to ship the items Priority Mail...
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Sellers should list prices.
You own it, you want to sell it, tell me how much you want.
You are not an amateur who does not really know what you have.
You are in the hobby, you know what you have and what is a fair price.
Don't play games, be a mensch and post your price. Don't make someone guess how much you want.
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I really don't care but it is a little annoying when there is no price or even a starting point for offers. Posts with no prices or pics are generally ignored.
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I view the results of the poll as about dead even -- 50% would require prices and the other 50% don't care or want to keep the status quo.
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I view the results of the poll as about dead even -- 50% would require prices and the other 50% don't care or want to keep the status quo.
Personally I view an I don't care vote as a non-vote. If in the presidential election one does not care enough to cast a vote because they do not like either option that to me is the same thing. I don't care is pretty much the same as not voting at all! Just my .02
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I never buy or sell anything on the B/S/T forum, so I really don't care a whole lot. But from a mostly disinterested point of view, I really don't understand the argument that sellers ask for offers when they "don't have a clue" what the value of the card is. If the seller doesn't have a clue what the value of the card is, how would that seller decide whether to accept someone's offer? How would that seller decide whether an offer is fair or not?

From my (admittedly non-participatory) perspective, this argument just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Is the idea that, well, a seller has some idea of what it is worth to himself, so he just want to see what everyone else thinks, and if it is worth significantly more to others than it is to him than he will sell?
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I never buy or sell anything on the B/S/T forum, so I really don't care a whole lot. But from a mostly disinterested point of view, I really don't understand the argument that sellers ask for offers when they "don't have a clue" what the value of the card is. If the seller doesn't have a clue what the value of the card is, how would that seller decide whether to accept someone's offer? How would that seller decide whether an offer is fair or not?

From my (admittedly non-participatory) perspective, this argument just doesn't seem to make sense to me. Is the idea that, well, a seller has some idea of what it is worth to himself, so he just want to see what everyone else thinks, and if it is worth significantly more to others than it is to him than he will sell?
the sellers almost always have a clue...despite creative wording.

price guides have become useless in this hobby...but we have much better, more accurate up to the minute available to us.

the problem is the prices are often manipulated so true values are fuzzy!
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Personally I view an I don't care vote as a non-vote. If in the presidential election one does not care enough to cast a vote because they do not like either option that to me is the same thing. I don't care is pretty much the same as not voting at all! Just my .02
According to Robert's Rule The abstentions could go either way but in usual rules it would not count and the Aye and Nays would be the only votes that matter. Yet it also states that if the vote requires a majority (or 2/3) of votes present, then the abstentions would count as a nay. So it really depends on the person conducting the vote and how they want to count the abstentions.
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Personally I view an I don't care vote as a non-vote. If in the presidential election one does not care enough to cast a vote because they do not like either option that to me is the same thing. I don't care is pretty much the same as not voting at all! Just my .02
Actually, upon thinking about how the question was phrased, I think that a vote for I don't care is a Yes.
The poll question is "Should for sale listings be allowed in the b/s/t without prices?"
If you say you don't care, it means you have a no opinion. If you have no opinion, then the answer can't be no, because that would mean you do have an opinion. The same doesn't quite hold true on the other side because the behavior is currently allowed. Therefore, you can infer that the voter with no opinion is OK with the current system, which is an affirmative answer.

I think that he should've left out the I don't care choice. If he had I think most of the IDC's would have been Yes'.
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