Ty cobb autograph cut - psa/dna 9 mint

[travrosty]

And I can't figure out what those 2 people were thinking, either.


donovan, are you there? i wanted to see those two ted williams sig that are alike. thanks.

[RichardSimon]

On 3/21 Donavon said he would post the Williams autos. on 3/23.
He also said he was mailing the Cobb to PSA on 3/23.
10 days and nothing.
What kind of scenario could we be imagining now?
Prove me wrong Donavon, let us hear from you.

[RichardSimon]

It appears Donavon has proven something.

[travrosty]

i've given up on the guy, he disappeared. if psa had stuck by their original authentication and said it was real during the re-examination, Donovan would have come on here and we wouldn't have heard the end of it. Looks like that didn't happen and he isn't saying anything for a particular reason.

I asked him for the two ted williams that look alike, and he said he would post them over a week ago. he doesnt want to do that now, because doing that means that he is available, and by not talking all together, he wants us to think he is away or not available.

[keithsky]

Why are you guys jumping on this Donovon guy. I'm sure PSA isn't going to drop everything to look at this Cobb autograph. Heck according to Richards statement the guy was supposed to send in the Cobb to PSA on the 23rd. Ok give it a few days for mail to get to PSA now it's the 26th then figure in a weekend and today is only the 4th. So maybe PSA has had it in there possesion for a few days. PSA probably won't look at it for a couple weeks. Blame them not this Donovon guy. Maybe he didn't send it in on the 23rd maybe the 24th or 25th. What is the big impatience. PSA isn't going to admit fault if if it is fake.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Why are you guys jumping on this Donovon guy. I'm sure PSA isn't going to drop everything to look at this Cobb autograph. Heck according to Richards statement the guy was supposed to send in the Cobb to PSA on the 23rd. Ok give it a few days for mail to get to PSA now it's the 26th then figure in a weekend and today is only the 4th. So maybe PSA has had it in there possesion for a few days. PSA probably won't look at it for a couple weeks. Blame them not this Donovon guy. Maybe he didn't send it in on the 23rd maybe the 24th or 25th. What is the big impatience. PSA isn't going to admit fault if if it is fake.

exactly, they arent going to admit fault if it is a fake, not to the general public anyway, but there are going to admit its a fake to donovan himself, then they are going to structure an agreement to keep it on the down low in exchange for consideration. that is what has most likely happened, if not, let's hear from you donovan!

donovan always checked in every few days. now its a couple of weeks and no word from donovan. He is MIA, people have had better luck finding someone in the witness protection program than get a word from donovan. we have sent him PM's and emails as well as posting here and on the memorabilia forum and he hasn't even said that psa hasn't gotten word back. we havent heard anything.

He went from considering suing people who suggested it was a fake, to playing the part of howard hughes, the world renown recluse.

we all know what happened.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Why are you guys jumping on this Donovon guy. I'm sure PSA isn't going to drop everything to look at this Cobb autograph. Heck according to Richards statement the guy was supposed to send in the Cobb to PSA on the 23rd. Ok give it a few days for mail to get to PSA now it's the 26th then figure in a weekend and today is only the 4th. So maybe PSA has had it in there possesion for a few days. PSA probably won't look at it for a couple weeks. Blame them not this Donovon guy. Maybe he didn't send it in on the 23rd maybe the 24th or 25th. What is the big impatience. PSA isn't going to admit fault if if it is fake.

Keith - we are not "jumping" on Donovan. He stated some things that he has not followed through on. He stated way back when that he was going to post some signed Ted Williams photos that looked "exactly" alike, according to his analysis.
Considering how anxious he was to resolve the problem I am pretty sure he sent it to PSA on the 23rd. Considering that PSA was getting negative publicity from this item, I am pretty sure it was moved up on their calendar once it arrived at their offices.
The fact that he has not posted here nor answered any of Travis' communications would indicate that he has gone into witness protection and the strong possibility exists that we won't hear from him again.
We just would like answers, he seemed to be trying to do the right thing but now he is nowhere to be found.

[Donavon]

Okay, conspiracy theorists. First off, I was unable to make it home on the 23rd as I was supposed to. I flew in for one week in another city for a new government class on new regulations for my industry. Then, had to come back to work early because my counterpart had a death in the family. I never made it home. I am now back at work for my normal two weeks at my workplace. PSA has the cut signature. My wife mailed it out via air mail last week. They are currently examining it, as I am told by Jackie Curiel (secretary to the president). I have no other information until their review is final. As for the Williams' pics..... I can't help you if I'm not home to take pictures. You will just have to wait another 2 weeks like I do. So.....put the pitchforks down & wait until there is actually more information to share.

Thanks,
Donavon

[Donavon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

i've given up on the guy, he disappeared. if psa had stuck by their original authentication and said it was real during the re-examination, Donovan would have come on here and we wouldn't have heard the end of it. Looks like that didn't happen and he isn't saying anything for a particular reason.

I asked him for the two ted williams that look alike, and he said he would post them over a week ago. he doesnt want to do that now, because doing that means that he is available, and by not talking all together, he wants us to think he is away or not available.

That & the other posts by yourself & Mr. Simon certainly sounds like the pitchforks were out. Just saying.......

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Donavon

That & the other posts by yourself & Mr. Simon certainly sounds like the pitchforks were out. Just saying.......

as you can read, after the 23rd, we didnt grab the pitchfords, we made many posts asking where you were, and if you could come and give us updates.

its only after two weeks went by we had every right to believe you would never show since you said you would give us an update on the 23rd when you got back.

i still would like to see the williams sigs

[Donavon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

as you can read, after the 23rd, we didnt grab the pitchfords, we made many posts asking where you were, and if you could come and give us updates.

its only after two weeks went by we had every right to believe you would never show since you said you would give us an update on the 23rd when you got back.

i still would like to see the williams sigs

It will be another two weeks before I return home, but I may have some pictures of the Williams' autos from my old home. I will check & post them if so. That said......to imply that I stayed away from the board because I was "hiding" is simply wreckless. My time is needed in other areas as well, such as work, home, etc... Some of us do have lives outside of collecting. Unfortunately, I had to appease the government when I was supposed to be at home. To me, it sounds alot like the owner of the Hauls of Shame website giving out opinions on things that they have never themselves actually examined. "It's a fake. It's a laser copy, although I've never actually examined it." Travis, I know you have this vendetta against PSA, as clearly signaled by your exerpt from the aforementioned website. They do make mistakes, just as we humans often do. But they also get it right most of the time, regardless of what "Mr. Pop Goes The Weasel" has to say. By the way...... is anyone else here aware of that guy's legal troubles? He's being sued by just about everyone in the hobby, including a certain auction house CEO (that I would go to bat for any day) for over $800,000. And my integrity is questioned? What a load of b.s.!

[chaddurbin]

to me it looks like the same sig. i'm hoping for OP's sake psa does the right thing here, which history tells us is about 50/50. i would not be surprised if the cert # is suddenly gone from psa database in a couple weeks...but let the process play out.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

to me it looks like the same sig. i'm hoping for OP's sake psa does the right thing here, which history tells us is about 50/50. i would not be surprised if the cert # is suddenly gone from psa database in a couple weeks...but let the process play out.

The easier way for PSA, like I mentioned in a prior post, is to examine the Cobb, if they determine it is fake they reimburse Don. They keep the Cobb and destroy it and keep it in the database, thus admitting no error and never having to answer any questions about it.