I'm almost POSITIVE this card features Shoeless Joe...

[CMIZ5290]

sorry, it's not joe jackson....also for the record, i do know just a little about jackson and i've seen the card in person because i own one!

[CW]

Believe what you will, Kevin, but you may want to check out a few key posts in this thread, mainly the initial post by Greg (botn) with a similar photo from a newspaper identifying the baserunner as Shoeless Joe, then a following comparison photo by Tim. I was also a skeptic at first, so I know where you're coming from, so to speak.

Unfortunately, Tim's comparison photo has since been removed, but it was fairly conclusive. It's a long thread, so it's tough to go back through it all, but check out post #243 (Greg's initial find of the newspaper photo identifying the baserunner as Joe), post #306 by Brett, then Tim's post #344. (other posts added to the findings, but I believe these three may be the key ones to see)

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=243

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=306

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=344

[slidekellyslide]

Yeah..anyone coming in late to this thread should read the whole thing...I think it was pretty conclusive that this is Shoeless Joe.

[orator1]

Seeing the newspaper photo identified as Joe next to the card photo was the deciding factor for me. The comparison is very convincing, and I would add irrefutable in my opinion.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by CW

Unfortunately, Tim's comparison photo has since been removed,

I put them back.

[CW]

Originally Posted by Abravefan11

I put them back.

Thanks. This was a great topic.

A couple other helpful posts...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=361

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...&postcount=362

[dstraate]

Could it be that this thread inspired the folks at Helmar? At least this one clearly states Jackson is in the card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T202-Helmar-...item1c24c99094

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by dstraate

Could it be that this thread inspired the folks at Helmar? At least this one clearly states Jackson is in the card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/T202-Helmar-...item1c24c99094

I know that someone affiliated with Helmar reads this board regularly. When a board member called them into question for shill-bidding their Ebay auctions they responded swiftly.

PS: This was one of my favorite threads. Thanks for bringing it back from the dead.

[tbob]

Dear God I thought this thread was dead and buried.....

[brett]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

sorry, it's not joe jackson....also for the record, i do know just a little about jackson and i've seen the card in person because i own one!

You are a very difficult man to sway... I respect that..... But read the 3 posts above and the discussion is over. Sorry. Oh, and you may know a little bit about Jackson, but not as much as Mike Nola (the historian from the Black Betsy website) who said the player on that card is "100% Joe Jackson".