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Old 07-29-2011, 04:27 PM
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Peter Nash has a conflict of interest which makes him unqualified to report on Halper's scams (according to Healey.)

Healey's article (which consists of little other than naysaying) then presents a long defensive quote from Halper's son Jason. No conflict of interest there!

Can you say "hypocrite"?
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:53 PM
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Peter Nash has a conflict of interest which makes him unqualified to report on Halper's scams (according to Healey.)

Healey's article (which consists of little other than naysaying) then presents a long defensive quote from Halper's son Jason. No conflict of interest there!

Can you say "hypocrite"?
There are degrees of hypocrisy...Personally I see Peter Nash leading the crusade against Barry Halper to be much higher on the scale than some writer I've never heard of enlisting Barry Halper's son to give his dad's side of the story.

What would you say if Coaches Corner set up a blog going after fraud in the Autograph industry without discussing their own part in it?
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This is all so confusing. Shouldn't it be easy for Halper's family to verify his claims? For example, did he play for Miami or not? How could autographs Halper got personally be deemed forgeries? (Can someone forge his own name?)
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This is all so confusing. Shouldn't it be easy for Halper's family to verify his claims? For example, did he play for Miami or not? How could autographs Halper got personally be deemed forgeries? (Can someone forge his own name?)
If I recall, he was at Miami, but only after Foxx left. Thus, his story about getting the autograph cannot be true.
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Aids, David? Your counter arguments are always amusing. Sports Illustrated doesn't just deal with one sport and I'm not asking Nash to report about faberge egg reproductions. It's all related. After all, he did post an anti-JSA piece, didn't he? Nash is agenda driven, as is most sites who want to point out the errors of those they dislike as they attempt to make a difference with their agenda. Nobody does any good for the hobby when they do this.

And this is 2011, it's essential with this technology to trust someone when buying autographs. As much as we want to go back to the old days, it isn't going to happen. We buy through scans and catalogs now since shows are dead and there has to be someone to trust and it's just too bad there are so many scam artists out there posing as authenticators.

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If I recall, he was at Miami, but only after Foxx left. Thus, his story about getting the autograph cannot be true.
Ok, thanks. So he did pitch at Miami after Foxx was there?
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no, he never pitched at miami, he never set foot on the ball field there. No record of him on the roster, or in the team photographs.

The captain of the miami squad who played there for three years both when foxx was coach and the year after, affirmed that halper was never on the squad.

"If Halper pitched for the team, he was a ghost" was the quote he used.

Halper also gave two differing stories about how Foxx and Ott both signed the sheet.

One version has Foxx telling him to bring the sheet in and both he and Ott will sign it at the same time. The other version has Halper bringing the sheet to the field to have Foxx sign it, and then Ott supposedly signed it later.

He also had two stories on how the Ruth autograph got on the 500 homerun sheet. One story is that he got Ruth's autograph personally in 1948 on Babe Ruth day at Yankee Stadium. The other story is that his father gave him the sheet with Ruth's signature already on it.

The Ruth signature on the 500 homerun sheet matches the two signatures on the Babe Ruth hair display letter of provenance and envelope that Halper said he traded an Iowa collector for. All three signatures match exactly, and all are forgeries in the opinion of nearly everybody.

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