Dave & Adam's Card World ...

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by npa589

The "Oh, I'm sorry, it's sold" doesn't work because it wasn't sold when i bought it. It was technically sold after I bought it. That "Oh, I'm sorry, it's sold" statement should have went to the buyer that bought it after me.

Technically you "ordered" the card; once it was determined that it was no longer "in stock" your funds were returned and your "order" was cancelled.

purchase: Acquire (something) by paying for it;
order: Request (something) to be made, supplied, or served

[npa589]

Payment had been sent through Paypal, I got an order confirmation. The invoice I got was to pay for them, and the order confirmation was sent once the payment went through. Since eBay purchases go through PayPal as well, I purchased the card before the other buyer did.

Also, I assume "in stock" would probably more apply to their store website than to ebay's website.

Originally Posted by t206hound

Technically you "ordered" the card; once it was determined that it was no longer "in stock" your funds were returned and your "order" was cancelled.

purchase: Acquire (something) by paying for it;
order: Request (something) to be made, supplied, or served

[t206hound]

Originally Posted by npa589

Payment had been sent through Paypal, I got an order confirmation. The invoice I got was to pay for them, and the order confirmation was sent once the payment went through. Since eBay purchases go through PayPal as well, I purchased the card before the other buyer did.

Also, I assume "in stock" would probably more apply to their store website than to ebay's website.

Purchase implies "acquisition" and since you didn't acquire (gain possession of) the card, you didn't purchase it. And your response even states that you received an "order confirmation," not a "purchase confirmation." Semantics, I know, but important nonetheless.

[npa589]

Subjective semantics at that...

Maybe we should start paying after we've received the card?

As far as I'm concerned, when I pay someone for a card - I'm the new owner. The next step is that they ship it to the new owner.


I'm kind of tired of arguing now, like Forrest Gump when he just stops running.

You make a good point t206hound, but like I said - they are subjective semantics, not universally defined. Again - even the fact that I feel that they are subjective is subjective.

Originally Posted by t206hound

Purchase implies "acquisition" and since you didn't acquire (gain possession of) the card, you didn't purchase it. And your response even states that you received an "order confirmation," not a "purchase confirmation." Semantics, I know, but important nonetheless.

[Leon]

It seems as though everything is getting worked out. I just had a nice chat with Shawn, their director of marketing. Seemed like a nice guy to me....He might post on this thread too as he is registering for the board......regards

[npa589]

It definitely is. I can't wait until it has. Once it has - I will literally change everything I have written on here to advertisements heralding their customer service, and complimenting the professionalism of Adam, Dave, Bob, and the entire company as a whole.

Originally Posted by Leon

It seems as though everything is getting worked out. I just had a nice chat with Shawn, their director of marketing. Seemed like a nice guy to me....He might post on this thread too as he is registering for the board......regards

[wake.up.the.echoes]

Doesn't Bob_Snyder belong to this board? I am not sure if he has seen/posted in this thread, but he might be one to ask about this situation.

[npa589]

I got an e-mail from Bob, nice guy. I also talked with Adam who was great to communicate with as well.

I'm just having fun arguing with people now. No hard feelings nor am I very upset, I just enjoy a good argument!

Originally Posted by wake.up.the.echoes

Doesn't Bob_Snyder belong to this board? I am not sure if he has seen/posted in this thread, but he might be one to ask about this situation.

[wake.up.the.echoes]

Adam is a heck of a guy. Adam (along with Dave) have built a great business from the ground up. Nothing but positive things to say about them. I don't know Bob, but I am glad you guys have spoken. With LCS (local card shops) drying up, I didn't want to see one of the few remaining get completely trashed without hearing both sides. Glad you guys worked it out.

[npa589]

Absolutely, I have a feeling that they may be hiring a company that syncs dacardworld.com with any other online retailer that they choose to list their cards on.

There are companies that sync, DACW just hasn't chosen to go down that road. I think it's clear that they should, and I assume that they will.

Originally Posted by wake.up.the.echoes

Adam is a heck of a guy. Adam (along with Dave) have built a great business from the ground up. Nothing but positive things to say about them. I don't know Bob, but I am glad you guys have spoken. With LCS (local card shops) drying up, I didn't want to see one of the few remaining get completely trashed without hearing both sides. Glad you guys worked it out.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by t206hound

Technically you "ordered" the card; once it was determined that it was no longer "in stock" your funds were returned and your "order" was cancelled.

purchase: Acquire (something) by paying for it;
order: Request (something) to be made, supplied, or served

Umm, no, technically he purchased the cards. They sent an invoice and according to his statment he paid within 1 minute. When he sent payment, that is a purchase whether they are in his possession or not. If you go down to a furniture store and buy a new dining room set and they give you a back order slip telling you it will be there in 2-3 weeks, have you still not purchased the furniture whether you have taken delivery of it or not? How you could defend behavior like this is unbelievable.

And another thing, when Nate paid for the cards they were "in stock." He paid from the invoice they sent him. However, instead of removing them from stock to fill Nate's "order," the seller decided to sell them to the second buyer for more money. A deal is a deal, and to back out of the deal for a better offer shows the content of their character. I don't see how anybody can defend DACW's actions.